Football Manager 2024

Football Manager 2024

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GerthQuake Oct 23, 2023 @ 1:50pm
Dogsh*t match engine, per usual
Consistent losses with dominant single-game stats in possession, chances created, clear-cut chances, and shots on target.

Scammed again. Incompetent imbeciles don't have a f*cking clue what they're doing.
Last edited by GerthQuake; Oct 23, 2023 @ 2:07pm
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Stinboi Oct 23, 2023 @ 2:46pm 
i actually think th egame engine is better and more realistic then the ♥♥♥♥ they released last year, havent seen mutch complain about it either this year
Masked Oct 23, 2023 @ 4:31pm 
Originally posted by GerthQuake:
Consistent losses with dominant single-game stats in possession, chances created, clear-cut chances, and shots on target.

Scammed again. Incompetent imbeciles don't have a f*cking clue what they're doing.

I smashed everyone so far, game is too easy.

Too many goals too.
zeeb Oct 23, 2023 @ 7:17pm 
Git gud.

Consistent losses with dominant single-game stats in possession, chances created, clear-cut chances, and shots on target.
What good is a tactic if you have 90% possession everywhere except the defensive third and the final third? Try some direct passing.

What good is a tactic if you have a lot of chances created but your forwards can't beat the defenders to the ball or must take shots outside their comfort zone? Give your forwards the option to attack the ball with their strengths.

What good is a tactic if you have a lot of clear-cut chances but those chances are given to everyone other than your forwards? Try a poacher or an advanced forward.

What good is a tactic if you have a lot of shots on target but they're not placed with accuracy? Try shooting less.

You might dominate stats, but if you don't dominate the match your tactic or squad isn't good. It's as simple as that. The only stats you should focus on are goals scored and goals conceded, everything else is just fluff.

I highly suggest you start with looking at the strengths of your forwards then design your tactic from there. Use the data hub to compare yourself to the other teams in your league after a few games to see where you can improve. Trade players accordingly.

Invincibility lies in the defence, the possibility of victory in the attack.
The stronger doesn't win, the winner is the strong.

Football isn't a game suited for defensive tactics, which is made apparent by the goal difference statistic that is second only to league points in importance.

Try a Positive 4-2-3-1 Wide against weaker teams and a Cautious 4-3-3 DM Wide against stronger teams, with a backup 4-4-2 if they're better than you in the middle lane of the pitch but weaker on the wings. Always tweak your tactics during a game to exploit weaknesses, don't be lazy.

If your plan fails; improvise, adapt, overcome.
Last edited by zeeb; Oct 23, 2023 @ 8:39pm
Ngoc Oct 23, 2023 @ 8:04pm 
It’s a game based on chance ♥♥♥♥ will always happen is not a mathematical matrix i have better team I always win you can lower your chance to lose but ♥♥♥♥ happens

I was lucky in my first season weaker team I won a lot of course i had better rotation and tactic maybe but that only even the field at best rest was luck

If you can’t live with games of luck this game is not for you
zeeb Oct 23, 2023 @ 8:12pm 
Originally posted by Ngoc:
It’s a game based on chance ♥♥♥♥ will always happen is not a mathematical matrix i have better team I always win you can lower your chance to lose but ♥♥♥♥ happens

I was lucky in my first season weaker team I won a lot of course i had better rotation and tactic maybe but that only even the field at best rest was luck

If you can’t live with games of luck this game is not for you
Football is not a game of luck, at all. It's like chess in that regard, skillbased.
Hope is not a strategy.

With meticulous planning, you'll win. Unless your team is garbage, which is also not based on luck but player transactions, morale or fitness.

If you lose then your tactic or squad is worse than your opponents or you're suffering from bad morale or fitness. All of which can be planned for and managed.

The better manager with the better team always wins.
This ain't poker.
Last edited by zeeb; Oct 23, 2023 @ 8:40pm
Max.p Oct 24, 2023 @ 12:01am 
I find it excellent. Achieving possession + having good Xgs is really not that easy. Direct passing and counter attack seems to be more than recommended. But that's realistic compared to how most teams nowadays plays. The 2010's spanish tiki-taka does not work anymore if that's what you're trying to achieve. Or you need really classy players.
Veg1ta Oct 24, 2023 @ 1:53am 
Originally posted by zeeb:
Originally posted by Ngoc:
It’s a game based on chance ♥♥♥♥ will always happen is not a mathematical matrix i have better team I always win you can lower your chance to lose but ♥♥♥♥ happens

I was lucky in my first season weaker team I won a lot of course i had better rotation and tactic maybe but that only even the field at best rest was luck

If you can’t live with games of luck this game is not for you
Football is not a game of luck, at all. It's like chess in that regard, skillbased.
Hope is not a strategy.

With meticulous planning, you'll win. Unless your team is garbage, which is also not based on luck but player transactions, morale or fitness.

If you lose then your tactic or squad is worse than your opponents or you're suffering from bad morale or fitness. All of which can be planned for and managed.

The better manager with the better team always wins.
This ain't poker.
Just NO! You don't know what your talking about, there is luck involved in FM, and NO the better Manager and Tactic doesn't always win, unless you save scum every game.
zeeb Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:09am 
Originally posted by Veg1ta:
Originally posted by zeeb:
Football is not a game of luck, at all. It's like chess in that regard, skillbased.
Hope is not a strategy.

With meticulous planning, you'll win. Unless your team is garbage, which is also not based on luck but player transactions, morale or fitness.

If you lose then your tactic or squad is worse than your opponents or you're suffering from bad morale or fitness. All of which can be planned for and managed.

The better manager with the better team always wins.
This ain't poker.
Just NO! You don't know what your talking about, there is luck involved in FM, and NO the better Manager and Tactic doesn't always win, unless you save scum every game.
Sounds like cries of failure to me, but whatever helps you sleep at night.
nosyke Oct 24, 2023 @ 3:21am 
So weird I havent had these issues at all!
Kerpal Oct 24, 2023 @ 6:31am 
Originally posted by GerthQuake:
Consistent losses with dominant single-game stats in possession, chances created, clear-cut chances, and shots on target.

Scammed again. Incompetent imbeciles don't have a f*cking clue what they're doing.

Nope. You better call it a player skill issue.
Ngoc Oct 24, 2023 @ 7:19am 
Originally posted by zeeb:
Originally posted by Ngoc:
It’s a game based on chance ♥♥♥♥ will always happen is not a mathematical matrix i have better team I always win you can lower your chance to lose but ♥♥♥♥ happens

I was lucky in my first season weaker team I won a lot of course i had better rotation and tactic maybe but that only even the field at best rest was luck

If you can’t live with games of luck this game is not for you
Football is not a game of luck, at all. It's like chess in that regard, skillbased.
Hope is not a strategy.

With meticulous planning, you'll win. Unless your team is garbage, which is also not based on luck but player transactions, morale or fitness.

If you lose then your tactic or squad is worse than your opponents or you're suffering from bad morale or fitness. All of which can be planned for and managed.

The better manager with the better team always wins.
This ain't poker.

I noticed your answer aren't very bright in general believe what you want if that make you feel a better human being but this game has luck involved and even if you have the better team you can lose

on the long run you can move the chance in your favor quite a bit that over 40-50 matches you know you are going to win at least 80-5% statistically speaking but luck will make you win or 90-95 or 70-75 and that can be the difference between winning the league or arriving in the top 5

obviously if you are not that good in setting your team or your team is really not that strong your chance go down to 50% and with luck 40-60 if you are really lucky or really unlucky even 35-65 but with a bad team you wont win the league

but why i bother telling you it's obvious from your other post you are not that type of person that can reason.
Ngoc Oct 24, 2023 @ 7:21am 
Originally posted by Silv3rCGN:
Originally posted by GerthQuake:
Consistent losses with dominant single-game stats in possession, chances created, clear-cut chances, and shots on target.

Scammed again. Incompetent imbeciles don't have a f*cking clue what they're doing.

Nope. You better call it a player skill issue.

i do agree with this consistent loss with superior team it means you are doing something that penalize you in the calculation and some bad luck it's a computer game pc don't cheat human do but human may not understand what the computer really calculating so i tend to agree that this seem a case of human lack of skill.

Even if they built a bias onto the AI because they can't match human logic (what he naively call cheating) and try to favor AI there is always a way to be better they coded that way in you are just not finding the right series of stuff you need to do.
Last edited by Ngoc; Oct 24, 2023 @ 7:23am
Aston Oct 24, 2023 @ 8:08am 
Maybe look into other things rather than blaming SEGA and the ME?
- Try new formations?
- Maybe drop your underperformers?
- Sign better players?
- Change your training regime (once beta ends, community workshops might help you with this more)

Instead of blaming the match engine when majority of others are satisfied with it, maybe look into your own tactical structures, training methods, and team cohesion. The silent majority seem to be fine, and i've not had any severe ME issues since FM21. The odd bogey team (Bournemouth and damn Solanke for me) does occur, but nonetheless, everything has been a significant step up this year in the ME.
zeeb Oct 24, 2023 @ 12:33pm 
Originally posted by Ngoc:
Originally posted by zeeb:
Football is not a game of luck, at all. It's like chess in that regard, skillbased.
Hope is not a strategy.

With meticulous planning, you'll win. Unless your team is garbage, which is also not based on luck but player transactions, morale or fitness.

If you lose then your tactic or squad is worse than your opponents or you're suffering from bad morale or fitness. All of which can be planned for and managed.

The better manager with the better team always wins.
This ain't poker.

I noticed your answer aren't very bright in general believe what you want if that make you feel a better human being but this game has luck involved and even if you have the better team you can lose

on the long run you can move the chance in your favor quite a bit that over 40-50 matches you know you are going to win at least 80-5% statistically speaking but luck will make you win or 90-95 or 70-75 and that can be the difference between winning the league or arriving in the top 5

obviously if you are not that good in setting your team or your team is really not that strong your chance go down to 50% and with luck 40-60 if you are really lucky or really unlucky even 35-65 but with a bad team you wont win the league

but why i bother telling you it's obvious from your other post you are not that type of person that can reason.
You're one to talk, you're basically telling people it's the game's fault every time they complain about something, it's a reoccurring theme from you across multiple threads and it is effectively halting their progress as FM players and as people in general. It's extremely damaging to say the least.

The worst thing is that I don't think you're a troll either, just void of logic and critical thinking. Which is worse, since a troll knows that they're spouting garbage.

Unfortunately it seems your 1k+ hours in FM23 haven't amounted to much, hopefully you dive deeper into the game in this version so you can give actually solid advice to new players.

I'll let you know when I need your opinion on something, but I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you.

I'm also not unreasonable in general as you seem to try and frame it.
I just don't reason with people I find to be less knowledgable, why would I?
Last edited by zeeb; Oct 24, 2023 @ 1:04pm
BooBears Revenge Oct 24, 2023 @ 1:49pm 
The Match Engine has a few things like players making stupid mistakes. The biggest bug bear still. Is hitting the woodwork 3/4 times and having 1/2 goals Disallowed in a game and then no press conference afterwards too. I know the game wants to realistic with the media ignoring teams outside the media 6 but come on.
I really hope it is not going to be like the previous years were your team hits the woodwork a 100 times a season.
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Date Posted: Oct 23, 2023 @ 1:50pm
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