Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver

Legacy of Kain: Soul Reaver

Snake_4K Sep 2, 2022 @ 9:43am
What's te real purpose of the Glyph Spells and Fire Reaver?
I mean, you can easily finish the story without any of them. And except for the Fire and SunLight Glyphs they are pretty weak IMO.
(The sound one, should at least kill Zephon's Spawns since they are weak against sound)
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Raina Audron Sep 3, 2022 @ 1:54am 
They are optional dungeons which provide some extra backstory and variety in combat (the only AOE you can get in the game). Sound Glyph used to be one of the most powerful ones and kill, not just stun, but they swapped the order around. There were supposed to be 8 Glyphs originally and also a lot more Forges but they cut those and implemented the Reaver finisher move instead.
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Snake_4K Sep 3, 2022 @ 4:14pm 
Originally posted by wrace:
Force Glyph is very useful in the battle with Kain and in some other places.

Stone Glyph, Water Glyph, and Sound Glyph are fully useless, of course, but they increase "mana" level for using of other Glyphs.
Yeah I came to realize that the force one is really usefull if you knew how to use it,
How can it be used against Kain?
Snake_4K Sep 3, 2022 @ 4:15pm 
Originally posted by Raina Audron:
They are optional dungeons which provide some extra backstory and variety in combat (the only AOE you can get in the game). Sound Glyph used to be one of the most powerful ones and kill, not just stun, but they swapped the order around. There were supposed to be 8 Glyphs originally and also a lot more Forges but they cut those and implemented the Reaver finisher move instead.
I see. too bad they cut stuff down.
Makes me remind of Ace Combat 3 the export version with all the cutted stuff
Raina Audron Sep 4, 2022 @ 7:06am 
Originally posted by Lion_4K:
BTW: do not listen Raina about cutted content, just because all additional Glyphs and all additional Reavers with their effects provide nothing more than most powerful Glyphs (Fire and SunLight ones) and Fire Reaver. With uncutted content we would have just one game without so great story that we have now with 3 games of Soul Reaver and we would have very strange final like the one in BO1 (I mean the alternative ending with the sacrifice of Kain).
What is your problem? I am just stating the facts, how the game was before they altered it to what we see in the retail version. Not whether it is for the better or worse. OP asked why are the only killing ones Fire and Sunlight so I explained that was not always that way. Your commentary on this is completely unnecessary.
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Heart Seeker Sep 4, 2022 @ 8:06am 
Originally posted by wrace:
I played with big amount of elemental Reavers using the code of Vampmaster for this and I saw in the game their effect. Also we talked with him about other glyphs and their effects, so I just provided the final conclusion. Instead of your dreams about cutted content which is useless in comparison with full story we have already in 3 (not just one) Soul Reaver games. And, of course, I also know the original story and I said already that this story is less interesting than the story we have now. So it is you the one who has some problems and do not want to listen evident facts.

Во-первых, научись грамотно выражать свои мысли, читать твои попытки в инглиш лангуаге - сущая боль.
Во-вторых, ты чего так взъелся? Чужие лавры покоя не дают? То-то ты уже не первый раз держишь тут всех в курсе, что этот ваш вырезанный контент нафиг не нужОн. У тебя фраза "вырезанный контент" ПТСР-триггер что ли вызывает? Если да, то повод показаться врачу.
В-третьих, твои офигительные советы по прохождению в пень никому не сдались. Среднестатистический игрок не будет идти ни за каким глифом, и уж тем более не будет считать тайминги атак Каина, чтобы вовремя использовать спелл. На бумаге это все круто звучит, а по факту это геморрой похуже самой битвы, в которой все, что требуется - это понять, куда портанулся босс.
И да, ты тут рассказываешь, как игрался с кучей элементальных риверов (которые были вырезаны из финальной игры), и тут же наезжаешь на человека за упоминание вырезанного контента, называя его "никому нафиг не нужными мечтами". Тебе нигде не жмет?
Snake_4K Sep 4, 2022 @ 10:39am 
Originally posted by wrace:
Originally posted by Lion_4K:
Yeah I came to realize that the force one is really usefull if you knew how to use it,
How can it be used against Kain?
All glyphs provide invulnerability on the time of their using and the Force Glyph has the minimal cost + it is available at the moment of the first battle with Kain.

Oh I see, because there's no health refueling mark in the arena like the last battle.
So you can use that to not having to shift back and forth each time you get hit or something.

I personally just too used to the game that I can defeat him without being hit so I didn't took that into consideration.
Heart Seeker Sep 4, 2022 @ 11:09am 
Originally posted by wrace:
P.S.: and yes. In order to be envious of other people's laurels, it is necessary that these same laurels be. And they are not. :steamfacepalm:
Tell us about your merits, then. Stealing somebody else's code don't count.
Offline Sep 4, 2022 @ 12:59pm 
Originally posted by Lion_4K:
Originally posted by Raina Audron:
They are optional dungeons which provide some extra backstory and variety in combat (the only AOE you can get in the game). Sound Glyph used to be one of the most powerful ones and kill, not just stun, but they swapped the order around. There were supposed to be 8 Glyphs originally and also a lot more Forges but they cut those and implemented the Reaver finisher move instead.
I see. too bad they cut stuff down.
Makes me remind of Ace Combat 3 the export version with all the cutted stuff

Fun fact - the force glyph itself could even burn enemy (from what I saw on the trailer one), but it was change for a while (for fun I guess)
Mcl_Blue Sep 4, 2022 @ 4:51pm 
Originally posted by wrace:
And yes, I proved my rights on my product for Valve in my DMCA requests for them (at least 3 times)
Are you implying that we should be proud of you for getting SR1 taken off of digital storefronts? Because we're not.
Heart Seeker Sep 4, 2022 @ 5:49pm 
Originally posted by wrace:
And yes, I proved my rights on my product for Valve in my DMCA requests for them (at least 3 times), so opinion of some fans about my product does not matter at all for me - you are not professional lawyers (like Valve have), you are just envious people without your own merits. :steammocking:
Since when being toxic towards people and boasting around is a merit?
All you did for community is robbing its participants of their creations, be it a fan-patch or a translation. I don't remember you re-drawing textures by hand for several months, or having a hard time with vocabulary in order to make a stylistically (and grammatically) correct translation, or making a good fanart. The only thing you assert to be yours is the SR1 patch, but even this patch is basically a bunch of different people's accomplishments, which you stole and claimed.
Heart Seeker Sep 5, 2022 @ 8:40am 
Originally posted by wrace:
Neither you nor anyone else can prove this (that I stole something). It is just your lie which is so convenient for you to suggest your opinion about me, no more. And yes. On the Steam there is CDMA and everyone - who thinks that someone violates this one rights - can create such request and the appropriate content will be removed from Steam. As you can see, no one provided such request in the case of my product during at least 6 years (exactly, during 14 years). And this fact confirms my words that you just provide lie. :steammocking:

Playing with fire, you risk to burn yourself.

By the way, slapping together a fan patch doesn't let you claim your right for it. The IP is still under SE, or rather Embracer now, and that you'll be told by any Valve lawyer you praised so much. Make your own Soul Reaver, with blackjack and you-know-what, then we'll talk.
Mcl_Blue Sep 5, 2022 @ 12:00pm 
.....Soul Reaver is already unavailable on Steam. It has been for over a year, soon to be two. Because of you. What in the flying ♥♥♥♥ are you on about? Have you gone senile? Or perhaps you need to get your vision checked? You CAN read, right?
Heart Seeker Sep 7, 2022 @ 10:45am 
Originally posted by wrace:
And my product is not the part of their original game, it is my product only.

Well, good luck to release your patch as a standalone game.
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