PS1 or Dreamcast?

[McJiggy]

At this rate Square is never going to get this fix done so which version is better to emulate so I can play the game now?

>inb4 people complaining about emulating
It ain't illegal

[BATTLE ATHLETE]

Dreamcast is the best by far.
Better Graphics and its uncensored

[McJiggy]

I'm not sure if this is a dreamcast bug or something but i'm currently stuck at Zephon's lair at the room with three pipes, I got it to start flowing air but I can't get Raziel to go up the pipe, he keeps hitting some invisible ceiling no matter where I try to position him. Is there like some kind of noclip cheat you can use? I'm using retroarch with the flycast core to play. I recorded a video to show exactly what's happening.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gG8o-imPXNM

Is it also somehow possible to convert the save file to work on the PS1 version? I'm probably just going to have to restart with the PS1 version.

[McJiggy]

Doing all 3 switches was what got the air flowing in the first place and they still don't have the PC version out.

[Allard]

JamestheFreak původně napsal:

At this rate Square is never going to get this fix done so which version is better to emulate so I can play the game now?

>inb4 people complaining about emulating
It ain't illegal

Dreamcast, it has better graphics and draw distance.

[Allard]

wrace původně napsal:

JamestheFreak původně napsal:

Doing all 3 switches was what got the air flowing in the first place and they still don't have the PC version out.

You can buy Steam key of PC version on the official Square Enix site even now.
As I said already, there is big amount of ways to fix such and any other bugs in PC version, but I do not know about the same ways in the case of console versions which have slightly better music playback (PS) or some models (DreamCast) than PC version. They do not provide huge improvements of graphics and gameplay like SR2 vs SR1.

Slightly better music playback? They cut over a hundred music tracks and the entire dynamic music feature from the PC version, that's anything but slight.

wrace původně napsal:

P.S.: hey, Allard, where is the promised "soon" (by insider's info from gog) release of "updated" version of SR1? Or may be their "soon" is the same as the one of Square Enix (which means one year) or the one of Blizzard (which means ten years and more)?

Beats me. I was expecting it to drop at the start of their Halloween sale or, at worst, today (since November 1st 2021 marks the 25th anniversary of the entire Legacy of Kain series), but it's GOG and GOG is CD Projekt, so their promises are to be taken with a truck of salt.

[McJiggy]

Well I'm an idiot, I never noticed the pipes in the air vent room before the triple pipe room you had to punch as well.

[Allard]

wrace původně napsal:

You shown that you know NOTHING about music playback in SR1.
In PS version there is approximately the same number of music tracks as in PC version, but in PS version these tracks are the midi files with activating of additional instruments and so on for dynamic music playback.

This is half correct. They are indeed midi files (or tracker music, to be precise), but there are TONS of music tracks missing from the PC version as anyone who ever played the console versions can attest. The dynamic music feature changes the variation of the track based on the part of the given location and/or whether or not the player is engaged in combat. The instrument switching happens when you shift from Spectral to Material ream and vice versa, which allows music to transition seamlessly while changing the way it sounds drastically.

wrace původně napsal:

Moreover, full size of such music tracks in PS version are much smaller than the size of the music.dat in PC version

Well yeah. This is how tracker music works, it is a bunch of note sheets performed in real time from a soundfont, whereas the PC version has pre-recorded tracks.

wrace původně napsal:

I tried to play in PS version on the emulator and I obtained head pain after small time of gameplay due to listen of this garbage (midi files).

Your bad taste in music doesn't make for an argument.

wrace původně napsal:

BTW: the number of tracks and their size in the OST of Raina has nothing common with the true number of tracks and their size in PS version of SR1.

Again, this is half correct. The size in Raina's OST has nothing in common with how the tracks are stored in the PS1 version since Raina's OST are recordings, nobody reverse engineered SR1's true OST playback yet. The number of tracks however is right on the money. Unless you mean to tell me that there are even MORE tracks in the PS1 version that aren't in her recordings. And perhaps, just perhaps, people who played the original PS1 version and the superior Dreamcast port are more knowledgeable about how many tracks are in those. Hell, the selection of tracks I gave you way back when would already make the game have twice as many tracks and that would only cover a fraction of the overall soundscape.

[NeN]

You can emulate, but it'd be so much better to just buy a modded Dreamcast. There are tons of people in the modding community who breathe in new life to this console, that you'd be amazed how easily it can work off an SD card or other flash media device.
Sure, it can cost a bit of cash, but you will be getting something that will last you for a very long time. Just be sure to buy extra gamepads, though there are ways to connect various gamepad technologies via different drivers.
If it is Soul Reaver you want to play, Sega Dreamcast is the way to go. Whenever I start my Dreamcast, the sensation is indescribable. It is such a tremendous joy, that you can virtually forget all the unnecessary difficulties of the modern society and just enjoy the game for game' sake. Pure bliss.

[HALO_run]

i'd pick ps1

[McJiggy]

I find it funny people are still posting in this thread, I finished the game like a month ago.

[Dracavius]

Close the thread then.

PS1 though for sure. And running games on emulators is, in fact, illegal. You likely won't get caught or prosecuted for it however. It's the emulators themselves that aren't illegal. Game files however, are.

[McJiggy]

No one except Nintendo even cares about people emulating their old games.

[donatas081294]

BATTLE ATHLETE původně napsal:

Dreamcast is the best by far.
Better Graphics and its uncensored

What do you mean by uncensored?

[an unnamed human]

Dracavius původně napsal:

Close the thread then.

PS1 though for sure. And running games on emulators is, in fact, illegal. You likely won't get caught or prosecuted for it however. It's the emulators themselves that aren't illegal. Game files however, are.

You are wrong. If you back up your own games it's perfectly legal. It's the way you acquire them that determines the legality. Same is true for the bios files used by an emulator. If the emulator works without you having to download a bios separately it's technically illegal. Though saying it's illegal is a strong word as that is more of a grey area. Nintendo might have you believe that this is not the case, however that is mostly due to how copyright law in Japan works.