Semi-Obvious minorly cheesy armor/weapon crafting tactic

[counterintel]

So in case it wasnt obvious you can save a game while your crafter is making a weapon or armor piece, and CTRL-ALT-DELETE END TASK the game if it comes out poorly and reload to make sure you get standard or higher quality on items

Just thought I'd point that out as it didnt occur to me until recently.

Kinda cheesy, but, sometimes a gnomes gotta do what a gnomes gotta do.

[Chrono]

You can do that, yes, but by allowing the lower quality item to be crafted you are still increasing their crafting skill and thereby reducing the chances of that happening again in the future.

Also, you can use the smelter and get some of the mats back if it doesn't turn out well.

[counterintel]

Originally posted by Ullysses Omega:

You can do that, yes, but by allowing the lower quality item to be crafted you are still increasing their crafting skill and thereby reducing the chances of that happening again in the future.

Also, you can use the smelter and get some of the mats back if it doesn't turn out well.

Though that is absolutely true, when crafting say, your first set of bronze or steel for your gnomguards that will be critical in defense, it can help in ensuring they are wearing a variety of normal/fine/superior gear instead of mostly poor gear with some normal and an occasional fine piece there.

Like I mentioned, it's totally cheesy, but can be useful. I've played my longest game into 8 years on normal attack frequency/number/strength and with a kingdom worth of like 1.7 million my dozen gnomes were never challenged in their steel gear, and yet my armorer was like, skill 38 even after consuming every bit of low level metal multiple times over.

A high level armor smith is a long long long end game goal, requiring a cubic ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of metal, so this cheesy, cheating method is useful to ensure your gnomes arent wearing -10% stat gear in a lot of slots.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by counterintel:

So in case it wasnt obvious you can save a game while your crafter is making a weapon or armor piece, and CTRL-ALT-DELETE END TASK the game if it comes out poorly and reload to make sure you get standard or higher quality on items

Seems like a lot of waste of time and a lot of effort. You know.. you can give a smelter a task to smelt every piece you craft that is below a certain quality.

Thus you can just get enough metal, especially if the goblins wear that armor already you'll have an ample supply of smelt-able worn armor, and then simply have your blacksmith smelt every item that is below the minimum quality you need.

And not only does he gain experience with the failed armors.. but also does he get better, and thus will eventually produce legendary armor with ease.

So really, you are just hurting yourself. Not only its a PITA to do that trick, but it doesn't really help you in the long run.

[kevinshow]

Good tip but I'll also draw the line at reloading just for more than 0 new gnomes. Trying to get higher quality metal gear might be even more tedious than doing it once per beginning of the season for the new gnomads to make sure I didn't just get 0 new gnomes. However, I like your idea if that ever becomes something I'll want to try for.

[counterintel]

Originally posted by Ishan451:

Originally posted by counterintel:

So in case it wasnt obvious you can save a game while your crafter is making a weapon or armor piece, and CTRL-ALT-DELETE END TASK the game if it comes out poorly and reload to make sure you get standard or higher quality on items

Seems like a lot of waste of time and a lot of effort. You know.. you can give a smelter a task to smelt every piece you craft that is below a certain quality.

Thus you can just get enough metal, especially if the goblins wear that armor already you'll have an ample supply of smelt-able worn armor, and then simply have your blacksmith smelt every item that is below the minimum quality you need.

And not only does he gain experience with the failed armors.. but also does he get better, and thus will eventually produce legendary armor with ease.

So really, you are just hurting yourself. Not only its a PITA to do that trick, but it doesn't really help you in the long run.

Its not a PITA, takes like 10 seconds per reload.

What IS a PITA is that after literally like 8 years my armor smith is at 38, doing exactly what you mentioned: Auto Smelting items down and re-crafting them. I do armor plates, so im not burning up leather and padding like crazy too but, maybe they give less frequent skills, i dont know, but I wouldnt be surprised If I've gone through thousands of bars, for what?

More poor quality gear?

In the end it probably doesnt matter much, but like I said, just throwin that out there for people who may not have realized you can reload those rolls if you are so inclined.

[Ishan451]

Originally posted by counterintel:

Its not a PITA, takes like 10 seconds per reload.

I am quite certain i would need more than 10 seconds, and all i would need to do is press the little X button up on top. But by the time i moved the cursor back over to the icon, then loaded the game up, found the gamefile in the loading screen.. found the load button... and then loading back in.. i am sure it would be more than 10 seconds...

And quite certainly not worth the effort.

Originally posted by counterintel:

What IS a PITA is that after literally like 8 years my armor smith is at 38, doing exactly what you mentioned

I find that unlikely. From my experience its hard to raise, but rising it is worth it.

[counterintel]

Originally posted by Ishan451:

Originally posted by counterintel:

Its not a PITA, takes like 10 seconds per reload.

I am quite certain i would need more than 10 seconds, and all i would need to do is press the little X button up on top. But by the time i moved the cursor back over to the icon, then loaded the game up, found the gamefile in the loading screen.. found the load button... and then loading back in.. i am sure it would be more than 10 seconds...

And quite certainly not worth the effort.

Originally posted by counterintel:

What IS a PITA is that after literally like 8 years my armor smith is at 38, doing exactly what you mentioned

I find that unlikely. From my experience its hard to raise, but rising it is worth it.

You are entitled to your opinion.

Just as I am. This was not meant to incite some 'THAT IS NOT EFFICIENT. RAISING SKILL IS SUPERIOR' debate.

This was just an fyi that this is possible, as it didnt occur to me until yesterday.