Bone needle!!!!

[Svinder]

Just curiouse what tips there are for getting one without sacking one of the yaks. Saw an unfinished guide where the plan was to trap a animal and wait for it to die of thirst. Not sure how to pull that off.

[lPaladinl]

Unfortunately, killing off your first male Yak is the easiest way to get it, always. You usually will find an animal around day 7 or 8, and if it's a badger or lizard, you can try to gang up on it and kill it, but it'll still be some risk (luckily, we start with bandages now, so as long as no one dies, you're good.)

However, it's still an extra risk and harder to do. You can also get into making a bone needle much earlier by killing your Yak.

The sound of trapping the first animal to show up sounds to me like it'd be wasting a lot of time. They still will take a while to die of starvation or thirst, and i'm not sure how you would trap one with them constantly fleeing from your gnomes, and you not having really any direct control over them.

[VUK FARKAS]

if ya ask me its better to just wait a few days... ya gonna either get more yaks or use enemy bones...

[faelyn]

Go vegetarian! Kill your yaks Make toothpicks.

[Nuc_Temeron]

It seems like we should be able to make needles out of other materials (wood, stone, metal). The bone roadblock is somewhat strange, considering that seems like the least useful of the materials available for needle-making.

[lPaladinl]

I wouldn't say that Bones wouldn't be useful for Needle making, I would Argue that Bone would actually be more useful for needles than most Stones, actually.

The point still stands though, it's odd that we can't make Needles out of anything else. The only explaination I can think of is that it's a primitive game balancing decision. I've never seen it confirmed that it would be changed for some reason

[theystillspyillegally]

Wait for enemies to kill one another. This usually works pretty well when a bear finds a skunk or an iguana.

[Jhonis]

Actaully, the trapping can be done after you stop the creature and then walling your kingdoms boards.

[The Duck Knight]

just a bunch of stone weapons for every gnome and maybe wooden shields if you got time left are enough to kill a badger or lizzard easy. You might have to wait for a few days for them to show up, but it will be enough.

[Arryu]

that IS wierd. I know I've seen them run away after like a day but nothing from the start is odd. I would double check that you designated the pasture (I forget all the time and freak out). If you didn't they might have left the map. You can usually buy some more yaks from merchants when they get there. I find that you can get an ambassador to your kingdom and even if he leaves immediately you will get at least one merchant. Just make sure you have a stall so you can trade stuff for yaks.

[Proteus]

Originally posted by theyspyillegally:

Wait for enemies to kill one another. This usually works pretty well when a bear finds a skunk or an iguana.

This.
I never had any problems with waiting for occasions where I get bone needles without having to macrifice a yak.

[stupid sexy flanders]

Yeah agree that it's really a matter of choice. Decide right at the start if you want bone needle early and are willing to sacrifice a yak to get it, or wait to get one from the corpse of a wild animal. Either a decent early game strategies; chose the one you will go with and stick to it and plan around it.

[Cobra]

IMO getting a really early bone needle isnt that important. You need it to make beds, bandages, and leather armor, but none of these things are crucial during the first season. You start with I think 50 bandages, which is more than enough to get you through your first few scraps with goblins. Beds are more of a luxury item, that require a decent stockpile of straw to make. And leather isnt really that important early either.

Just wait the first season out, focusing on other production chain. Having your other industries in good working order just makes it that much easier to really pump out the goods you want when you do actually get the needle.

I usually just wait until the first yak is born, but if the oppurtunity arrises for me to kill an animal ill take it.

[SilverRose]

what you do is

1. you remove floor on all boarders of seed leaving a few tiles for spawns to appear.
2. build a wall 10-15 tiles in from the edge around that gap, maken a box with two sections missing at both ends.
3. build stairs on the outside of the box and then a floor on the wall, (not over the box).
4. when an critter spawns close the box and open a new gap to the edge traping the critter in the box.
5. you wait a few days for it to die...and presto a bone needle and meat.

[theystillspyillegally]

Originally posted by SilverRose:

what you do is

1. you remove floor on all boarders of seed leaving a few tiles for spawns to appear.
2. build a wall 10-15 tiles in from the edge around that gap, maken a box with two sections missing at both ends.
3. build stairs on the outside of the box and then a floor on the wall, (not over the box).
4. when an critter spawns close the box and open a new gap to the edge traping the critter in the box.
5. you wait a few days for it to die...and presto a bone needle and meat.

Also, if you just wall off your entire town from the map, and leave a 10x10 area for spawns boxed in, eventually you'll have 'monster deathmatch 2000' and have plenty of 'spare parts' .

Gnomoria Cage-Matches are rockin'

[lochlain000]

Originally I thought you needed metal slivers for needles, silly me :)