Tax Collection

[ReynoldHughes]

How does this work at all?

One game, I set the tax law to be 20 gold for every bathroom visit, and I was making enough money to not have to worry about losing pia

The next game, I do the same exact thing, but my tax collector just doesn't collect taxes? I watched my treasury drop from 8k to 2k before I built the rat shrine.

How does the tax collector job work? Does anyone know?

[x-kdn]

Looks like tax collector fill percentage at the corresponding place. Once it filled to 100% one rat pay you taxes. Probably you have appointed non effective tax collector. If all conditions are same, which I doubt.

[Matok]

If the only thing you have is 20g per bathroom visit, then you're likely not taxing enough. Take a look at statistics and see if you have some rats sitting on a lot of gold. Some professions will make rats very rich quite quickly, and for some professions like military or research, that money will never go back to you unless you tax it, so if that is what is happening, add a wealth tax to tax a percentage of their wealth when they go over a certain amount, doing so will basically cap their wealth at that number and return the surplus to you.

Your goal should be to keep enough gold so you can pay rats to do things, but not hoard it. It depends on how many rats you have and what welfare laws you have, but having somewhere around 5k is probably a good place to aim for. If you have more than that, ease off the taxes, if you have less, raise taxes.

[Oragepoilu]

The most simple and easy way to apply taxes and only taxes wealth and give money to the poor.

Doing both at the same time can push all the rats into the bracket you want with no further rules required beside those 2.

Early on I gave 100 gold to anyone under 150, and taxe 30%wealth to anyone over 350.
This way high income that get tons of money get taxes that increase over time if they stack too much money and low income get money instead of taxes.

Later you can switch to something like give 500 if under 3000, then taxe 14%wealth if over 3500 to make sure everyone is pushed to upper class after a few days.

Might be scary to see the money go poof but it's here, just in your rat's pocket. They need money to buy stuff and live, but after that you can just take trough wealth taxe the rest, they don't need it.

You might need more precise rules in high difficulty though since you start with so little money but 10k is a large amount to play around, there isn't much to worry unless you have 25 rats and didn't research minting/trading.

[redhongkong]

i never mess with product price / location usage. (add here, i do use law to allow poor to use high class products)

i always go with wealth tax % and welfare for money circulation

[Raymond]

There are several reason:
- You don't have enough tax workers.
- You have too many ratizens that spread all your money out, and you are not taxing them enough.
Seriously, just tax more. You are running a medieval society with a closed economy, your peasants do not need 2000 gold each.

[happyscrub]

Tax collect is just to help you, not do all the work themselves (unless you are rich and use very LONG tax cycles). Tax collector do work at the desk. When they are done, they go collect debt from the rat with the highest debt. I guess it's for if you miss a few rats getting the taxes yourself, you can just let them finish up.

It works for me because I set my big tax for every 5 days. So on tax day I'll collect taxes from most of the people. And I leave the rest for him. He has all of 5 days to get any big debts.

[Senka]

An easy formula is a threefold setup. Have a basic tax of 20% of income for every rat who has 200 gold or more. Then a 20% 'wealth' tax for every rat with 400 or more wealth. Then, set up a welfare law to give any rat who has less then 150 gold, 150 gold per day. This will cover all their expenses and keep your gold easily topped out.

Once you start either trading or you get some furnaces and mint facilities up, ease up on the taxes to allow your rats to advance into middle and high class rats.

[ReynoldHughes]

Thank you for the great answers. I started doing what Oragepoilu suggested, and I've gotten past the first season now. I can't mark multiple answers here, but a lot of these are great suggestions.

[F_F]

I am having success with Communism. My rats pay me 100% of their income and in turn I give them a daily welfare check of what I can afford. If they get above a certain wealth Limit I set, they pay back rouglt 80% of their wealth or down to what the daily wage is. This way the more money I get with Minting and exporting, the more They in turn get. All my rats will go from poor to middle class all at once and again all at once to high class.

[andre.schreiter]

I have now tested the "communism" approach with taxes in Ratopia: In itself it can work... yes, if not... Why the hell, in one case first the credits then the 100% deduction are carried out. In other words, a rat suddenly has a fortune of 0.

[Yuki]

This thread was quite old before the recent post, so we're locking it to prevent confusion.