Why Kain didn't want Janos to be revived exactly?

[Ganondork]

Be warned, if you haven't played through the end this might contain spoilers.

Anyway, Kain, back in Blood Omen, was revived and turned into a vampire by Mortanius with the help of the heart of darkness (Janos' heart), meaning Kain is in its possession in the current timeline so, my thought is that Kain thought reviving Janos back before he was revived himself with the heart of darkness would result in his permanent death, as Mortanius would have nothing to come and revive him when he dies as a human, but is that really it? And if so, why did he really stay alive after the revival of Janos? Staying alive because of his role as the scion of balance seems like a cheap excuse.

[Хела]

Originally posted by wrace:

Because of appearing The Hylden Lord in Blood Omen 2 - the newest Kain's memoirs at the end of SR2.
As it seems Kain did not know that the Heart of Darkness (Janos' heart) inside him before Raziel did not "take it back" from him.
By creators, Kain staying alive because of his role as the Scion of Balance + he said to Raziel: "only you have weapon that can destroy me" - but Raziel just tore heart, not destroyed him by Wraith Blade (like it is shown in the time-portals in SR1) or by the paired blades (like it can be in SR2).

"Reputed to have been ripped from the chest of the greatest vampire to have ever existed, Janos Audron, the Heart of Darkness restores vampiric unlife. Life is precious, Janos discovered - as it was torn throbbing and bleeding from his own body."
―Kain wikia.
Hi just passing by. He knew it was Jano's?

[Allard]

Originally posted by Azure Thought:

Be warned, if you haven't played through the end this might contain spoilers.

Anyway, Kain, back in Blood Omen, was revived and turned into a vampire by Mortanius with the help of the heart of darkness (Janos' heart), meaning Kain is in its possession in the current timeline so, my thought is that Kain thought reviving Janos back before he was revived himself with the heart of darkness would result in his permanent death, as Mortanius would have nothing to come and revive him when he dies as a human, but is that really it? And if so, why did he really stay alive after the revival of Janos? Staying alive because of his role as the scion of balance seems like a cheap excuse.

Kain didn't know that he was revived with the Heart of Darkness and had no idea that the heart is inside of him. He didn't want Janos to be revived because his revival resulted in the events of Blood Omen 2 playing out: the possessed Janos opens the portal to the Demon Dimension and lets the Hylden out and then serves as the food source for The Mass.
As for why did he survived - he may have not needed it after a thousand and a half years as a vampire. He was alive and conscious when Raziel threw him into that portal after all.

[robaczek]

Amy Henning answered why he survived without his heart: because he's the Scion of Balance.

[shogun.odachi]

I want to play the the story line, I have played and beat Blood Omen 2 and I Own a copie of "Lagacy of Kain Defiance" for xbox. But have only gotten... Well not very far lol. My question is, witch one do I buy 1ST or play 1ST, SR, SR2 or any others can any one help me please with this ???

[robaczek]

Um... BO2 was released before Defiance (which is the last game in the series). As for BO1 it's a very old game and there's a ton of problems running it. So maybe just watch the plot on YT or get the PS1 version and an emulator.

[robaczek]

SR2 starts where SR1 left off and then moves back hundreds of years even before BO1 so it's pointless to write "chronological" order. I mean, what order? The whole series is one big time-travel so the most logical conclusion is to play the games as they were released, otherwise it could end somewhat like this:
play Defiance Ch1, play BO1, play end of SR2 and so on... it's just one big mess.

As for BO1 I had many problems with it as many other people. You're one lucky guy to have none.

[Nijuka]

robaczek

Originally posted by robaczek:

SR2 starts where SR1 left off and then moves back hundreds of years even before BO1 so it's pointless to write "chronological" order. I mean, what order? The whole series is one big time-travel so the most logical conclusion is to play the games as they were released, otherwise it could end somewhat like this:
play Defiance Ch1, play BO1, play end of SR2 and so on... it's just one big mess.

As for BO1 I had many problems with it as many other people. You're one lucky guy to have none.

Actually there is a time line to follow, just because from SR2 an Defiance time travel doesn't retract from that..


BO1 takes place before SR1 SR2 and Defiance. BO1 is the start of the Story of Kain, From Kain Comes Raziel From there about a 1000 years then SR1 begins, then right into SR2 as Raziel hunts down Kain to kill him all the way to Defiance.

BO2 could be inserted between BO1 and SR1 before he Rises to power.


Thats the Proper Timeline, reguardless if they use a Time Machine. Its from the Two , Kain an Raziel you base the timeline on not the Dates they curretly reside....


Their progression in story is what you base the timeline on. Its simple.

[robaczek]

Actually, it's an empty discussion. Everybody have their own reasons for specific order. I prefer the release order - mainly for mechanics sake but also plot (by playng in that order you can actually see how the story developed and what was changed to accomodate such things as old Kain or BO2 events, you can put yourself in developer's shoes). BO1 should always come first. It's the first adventure and the first release. It's also the only RPG-ish in the whole series. BO2 stands out but the rest? I always found SR1 and SR2 mechanics clunky in comparison to Def (no wonder as they're older).

As for me, my order was SR1 -> SR2 -> Def -> BO2 -> BO1 just because I didn't even know there was something more to the series than just SR part and after playing BO2 I discovered there actually is BO1. And yet, I still think the release order is best but if someone really would play all 5 games, then the order doesn't really matter. The whole series is a big puzzle, by playing the games you just complete it and if you're open minded and thinking more than a couch-potato then you'll be able to piece it together no matter which pieces come first.

[Caiptán Del Espacio]

As a matter of fact, BO2 events take place after Defiance, following Janos' possession by the Hylden. So, for me, the order is BO1, SR1, SR2, Def, BO2.