How is the game?

[WazzzUppp]

So people that have been playing on ubisoft launcher or epic, how is the game? Is it good? Do you reccomend it? Why or why not?

[ProVegaGamer]

I bought it on epic games for 12.99 and bought the Aiden dlc. Is it better than WD1? IMO, no. Is it better than WD2? Yes, way better.

Pros:
Performance is great, just don't turn on ray tracing unless your System can handle it.
Massive Open World
Amazing look vehicles
Character customization is much improved
Being able to select so many characters in the game to use is fun, you can pretty much be anyone in the game and each person has their own car or gear
Its just like any other watch dogs game, VERY FUN and lots of stuff to do.
There's also a zombie mode, which is pretty challenging, but interesting.

[76561198070929939]

one of the most bland ubisoft games to date, i unfortunately fell for this scam and bought it day one on uplay, it's EXTREMELY inferior to watch dogs 1 and 2 and is full of disgusting microtransactions, bugs, the optimization is terrible like any ubisoft game (struggling to keep 60 FPS on a 2080 and i9 without RT enabled) don't waste your money on it, even people who pirated it uninstalled in the first few hours. Watch dogs 2 is immensely better in everything the ip is about.

[Roland]

I have the Ubi connect version with the Season Pass.
On my old hardware, that was 7 years out of date, it run passably but not great. On my current hardware that's only 5 or so years out of date (GTX 1660 mainly, my CPU is from <2 years ago) it runs pretty well if you're shooting for 1080p@60fps.

As for the game itself:
The story is kinda meh, mainly because the core design of the game doesn't allow for any character development or growth. Now I should preface that with I've only played about half the story twice. (I gotta restart my most recent save because I took a break and forgot permadeath was on and lost Darcy and Aiden when I came back while trying to remember how to play)

As for the gameplay, it's LEAGUES beyond WD2. WD2 there was very few missions that couldn't be completed by literally just standing outside of a restricted area and using drones and cameras to kill or frame people. It was WAY too easy to be an unstoppable god in WD2, controlling the cops and gangs to your whims. Try that ♥♥♥♥ in Legion and watch you get punched in the face or shot by the guys who actually checked the perimeters and left the restricted zones to see where the hacks are coming from.

Now i'm not saying there isn't ways to cheese Legion (cargo drone + spiderbot is mildly OP, but not foolproof) but the AI reactions to your mayhem feel a lot more authentic.

Also the fact that you don't have every possible ability or gadget in your pocket leads to a lot more thoughtful gameplay, where you have to choose who and how you approach. (for example, saving a hostage in a gang base as an old woman who can't dodge, run, or take cover is an exercise in "why the ♥♥♥♥ did I do this to myself?")

To summarize:
If you're only looking for a good story, you might wanna skip it. But if you enjoy the gameplay of the previous WD games and want to see how they can be improved upon, this is definitely worth your time.

Also i should add: while you can switch gadgets on the fly at any time, you are limited to what you have unlocked and none of them are as OP as the stuff Marcus was rockin

[breadman]

it's pretty meh

[Gonky]

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

I bought it on epic games for 12.99 and bought the Aiden dlc. Is it better than WD1? IMO, no. Is it better than WD2? Yes, way better.

Pros:
Performance is great, just don't turn on ray tracing unless your System can handle it.
Massive Open World
Amazing look vehicles
Character customization is much improved
Being able to select so many characters in the game to use is fun, you can pretty much be anyone in the game and each person has their own car or gear
Its just like any other watch dogs game, VERY FUN and lots of stuff to do.
There's also a zombie mode, which is pretty challenging, but interesting.

i literally dont know which game is he talking about, definetly not Watch dogs legion. its the opposite of almost everything he says.

[Stone Cold Stavros Flatley]

As someone that hasn't played Watchdogs 1 or 2, I actually like Legion.
It's genuinely fun to play and cause havoc, either in free roam or during missions, and the sheer variety of operatives you can play as - you can recruit ANYONE, even the enemy if you put time into it - and the varied gameplay styles they encourage, it can be quite challenging at times, too.

The open world isn't anywhere close to a Rockstar game, but it's still great to blast around in. I personally find the gameplay genuinely fun and hop onto the game just for that.

The story is nothing special at all, as others mentioned there's no real character development as you can be any one of your operatives during a cutscene and they all say the same thing.

Don't pay full whack for it if it comes out on Steam costing the same as a full modern game, but do buy it for ~30-40$ if you want a blast. You'll know in the refund window of the first 2 hours if you're going to enjoy yourself.

[Roland]

Originally posted by Gonky:

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

I bought it on epic games for 12.99 and bought the Aiden dlc. Is it better than WD1? IMO, no. Is it better than WD2? Yes, way better.

Pros:
Performance is great, just don't turn on ray tracing unless your System can handle it.
Massive Open World
Amazing look vehicles
Character customization is much improved
Being able to select so many characters in the game to use is fun, you can pretty much be anyone in the game and each person has their own car or gear
Its just like any other watch dogs game, VERY FUN and lots of stuff to do.
There's also a zombie mode, which is pretty challenging, but interesting.

i literally dont know which game is he talking about, definetly not Watch dogs legion. its the opposite of almost everything he says.

Is it though?
Let's go over the points 1 by 1:
"Performance is great"
-This CAN be true, as I run it at 1080p on a GTX 1660 and can stay over 55fps (with a 60 lock) as long as the game is on my SSD (it does seem to have an issue with HDDs) but some people do seem to have issues (I'm actually waiting for a response from a guy I'm trying to help troubleshoot his performance because his is pretty bad but should be significantly better than mine with his hardware)

"Massive Open World"
-this can be a bit relative, but if you check this out:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZWu0ShfDjI
you'll find it's 10% bigger than WD2, with a MUCH more playable area rather than just water, and it's double the size of WD1, not to mention you can fly in this one.

"Amazing looking vehicles"
-eh, stock I'd say they are on par with WD2 overall but the slight futuristic touches and vintage cars do spice it up a bit. The paintjobs you can get are definitely superior though.

"Character customization is much improved"
-this is pretty subjective but the vast diversity in masks IS definitely an improvement.

The rest is subjective to one's own tastes. (except maybe the zombie mode thing. that's definitely challenging)

[Dr. Peppermill]

Originally posted by LAPDAlonzo:

I bought it on epic games for 12.99 and bought the Aiden dlc. Is it better than WD1? IMO, no. Is it better than WD2? Yes, way better.

Pros:
Performance is great, just don't turn on ray tracing unless your System can handle it.
Massive Open World
Amazing look vehicles
Character customization is much improved
Being able to select so many characters in the game to use is fun, you can pretty much be anyone in the game and each person has their own car or gear
Its just like any other watch dogs game, VERY FUN and lots of stuff to do.
There's also a zombie mode, which is pretty challenging, but interesting.

Performance wasn't good if you play at 4k with ray tracing. I played with RTX 3090.

There is not exactly "character customization", you can have up to 40 different characters and you can change their clothes but not their faces. But you can replace those characters. In general, you can hire almost every NPC to be your "character" and you can switch between them. Some of them have unique skills and you can choose depending on situation.

It's quite different from the previous Watch Dogs games. Not for good.

Zombie mode in a Watch Dogs game is complete BS. LOL

It was a mixed bag for me. I had some fun with it, I liked the city of London but after 60-70 hours it became boring.

Forgot to mention, the story is complete sh1t.

Anyway, if the price is good (50% off or similar), it's a fine game. But don't expect a lot from it.

[ZDuB]

ya its good, definitely recommend, a very immersive near futuristic London with unique npc's that make a very believable virtual city

[Dirty Wizard]

The recruitment mechanic is quite innovative if a bit half baked. It's fun for a while until you realise how fragmented and seperate the teams that made the game are and how that affects the game. It's very obvious that there's not a lot of communication or interaction between the people who design the missions and the people who make the engine. The missions are all very repetitive and narrow in scope, and there are no big setpieces or grand events. Everything's very restricted by the narrow design of the engine. All the missions are quite repetitive and tend to be very basic: "go here and get this" or "go here and neutralize these enemies" with very little variety.

The whole game plays like a free total conversion mod of another better game, except the better game doesn't actually exist.

It's worth about 20 bucks and will give you about 6 hours, but I wouldn't recommend paying any more than that for it.

[𝕊𝕙𝕒𝕚𝕕𝕠𝕟]

As much fun as both previous games.
I did not finished it, but I usually don't bother to finishing open world games, unless is to unlock something by the end.
The messing around with the open world elements is enough to satisfy me.

[⭕⃤ BIPPO]

I got it for free while buying a 3080 time ago and coulnt keep playing after a couple hours... not for everyone

[KenTWOu]

I decided to add my 2 cents here... If you are a fan of a stealth genre like me (especially if you like Splinter Cell series) you will find this game easily the best in WD series, because of several reasons:

1) If you holster your weapon and get detected in Legion all enemies won't start magically shooting at you like in WD2/1, instead only the guy/girl who notices you will know about you, and he/she will try to neutralize you using melee fighting system Legion introduced = no alert at this point.

This feature alone makes Legion a much better, much smoother stealth experience than a mediocre WD2 (mediocre as a stealth game ofc). In Legion (unless mission designers made a forced alert sequence or a car chase) you decide when the game transitions into a shooter, not overly sensitive AI like in previous games.

2) When you make lots of mistakes playing stealth, several enemies might surround you, and one of them will start to loose his temper and decide to pull his gun out to shoot at you. Even then you can hack his gun and buy some time to deal with this enemy first.

Bonus points, Legion is way more systemic, that's why (unlike in previous games) you can hack everything around you while your character is doing his melee/takedown animations, which helps to neutralize huge groups of enemies fast. WD2 blocks all your hacking abilities during takedowns. WD1 even blocks your camera view.

3) Stealth is way more varied here than in previous games: you can play as spider bot and be stealthy, you can play as shock/chase drone and be stealthy, you can use disguises, you can hypnotize an enemy and indirectly help him to neutralize other enemies and be stealthy, you can play it as a stealthy focused brawler/melee game, you can play it as a typical cover based stealth game. And that's stealth alone!

Thanks to variety of cool perks, gadgets some of the NPCs have in the game, action is more varied too. Berserker perk alone opens up shooter part like nothing else in previous games. From gameplay point of view Legion just rocks.

4) You can die, especially on Resistance difficulty, that's why stealth in the game becomes way, way more thrilling and engaging than in previous games. But it's not frustrating like during some annoying achievement hunting of other games - like play through the whole Deus Ex/Alien Isolation without drying. Because your agents are basically your lives, you have multiple attempts, and you have control over a number of your agents/lives.

I played Darcy missions as Darcy on Resistance difficulty, and it was quite something, because I knew I could die easily at any moment, and you can't recruit another Darcy if she dies. Meanwhile in WD2 and WD1 your death means nothing, you just waste several minutes of gameplay, and that's it.

5) This one isn't that big of a point, but it kinda is. You have crouch button in Legion, and the overall controlling scheme is very close to the way it works in Splinter Cell: Blacklist on PC. This thing alone makes Legion a much better stealth game IMO. Its stealth is just way more enjoyable, most of the mistakes you do during stealth sequences are on you, not on horrible auto crouch mechanic. Your movements are way more precise than in previous games, your input is way more important than Marcus'/Aiden's slick animations.


I could easily add other points to this list describing how schedules and deep profiler make your agents more alive than entire team of WD2, because they're constantly roaming the city, have relatives and stuff, and everyone of them could die if you start a firefight nearby. Or describe the way karma system works in the game (WD2 doesn't even has this one) that forces you to play the game less than lethal. Or how you can heal people you accidently harmed following them using deep profiler. Or the fact that you can recruit any enemy in the game humanizes them, but my post is mostly about stealth.

TLDR: Legion stealth is brilliant, which is not that surprising considering the game was developed by Ubisoft Toronto/Splinter Cell devs and was led by Clint Hocking - creative director of Chaos Theory, which is the best Splinter Cell game to date.

[Laben_Venci]

It's okay.
Not unplayable, but alright.
Openworld is more-so a updated version of Syndicate's, without the enterable buildings or exploration, just the layout.

Online is a bit boring, and dead. Not many people playing it and the missions are a pain.
I don't have friends to play with. And it's a tad laggy.

I like the random characters, which are cool. Each having abilities and stats. It's worth trying out but it's not worth $60.

[SHREDDER]

Originally posted by KenTWOu:

I decided to add my 2 cents here... If you are a fan of a stealth genre like me (especially if you like Splinter Cell series) you will find this game easily the best in WD series, because of several reasons:

1) If you holster your weapon and get detected in Legion all enemies won't start magically shooting at you like in WD2/1, instead only the guy/girl who notices you will know about you, and he/she will try to neutralize you using melee fighting system Legion introduced = no alert at this point.

This feature alone makes Legion a much better, much smoother stealth experience than a mediocre WD2 (mediocre as a stealth game ofc). In Legion (unless mission designers made a forced alert sequence or a car chase) you decide when the game transitions into a shooter, not overly sensitive AI like in previous games.

2) When you make lots of mistakes playing stealth, several enemies might surround you, and one of them will start to loose his temper and decide to pull his gun out to shoot at you. Even then you can hack his gun and buy some time to deal with this enemy first.

Bonus points, Legion is way more systemic, that's why (unlike in previous games) you can hack everything around you while your character is doing his melee/takedown animations, which helps to neutralize huge groups of enemies fast. WD2 blocks all your hacking abilities during takedowns. WD1 even blocks your camera view.

3) Stealth is way more varied here than in previous games: you can play as spider bot and be stealthy, you can play as shock/chase drone and be stealthy, you can use disguises, you can hypnotize an enemy and indirectly help him to neutralize other enemies and be stealthy, you can play it as a stealthy focused brawler/melee game, you can play it as a typical cover based stealth game. And that's stealth alone!

Thanks to variety of cool perks, gadgets some of the NPCs have in the game, action is more varied too. Berserker perk alone opens up shooter part like nothing else in previous games. From gameplay point of view Legion just rocks.

4) You can die, especially on Resistance difficulty, that's why stealth in the game becomes way, way more thrilling and engaging than in previous games. But it's not frustrating like during some annoying achievement hunting of other games - like play through the whole Deus Ex/Alien Isolation without drying. Because your agents are basically your lives, you have multiple attempts, and you have control over a number of your agents/lives.

I played Darcy missions as Darcy on Resistance difficulty, and it was quite something, because I knew I could die easily at any moment, and you can't recruit another Darcy if she dies. Meanwhile in WD2 and WD1 your death means nothing, you just waste several minutes of gameplay, and that's it.

5) This one isn't that big of a point, but it kinda is. You have crouch button in Legion, and the overall controlling scheme is very close to the way it works in Splinter Cell: Blacklist on PC. This thing alone makes Legion a much better stealth game IMO. Its stealth is just way more enjoyable, most of the mistakes you do during stealth sequences are on you, not on horrible auto crouch mechanic. Your movements are way more precise than in previous games, your input is way more important than Marcus'/Aiden's slick animations.


I could easily add other points to this list describing how schedules and deep profiler make your agents more alive than entire team of WD2, because they're constantly roaming the city, have relatives and stuff, and everyone of them could die if you start a firefight nearby. Or describe the way karma system works in the game (WD2 doesn't even has this one) that forces you to play the game less than lethal. Or how you can heal people you accidently harmed following them using deep profiler. Or the fact that you can recruit any enemy in the game humanizes them, but my post is mostly about stealth.

TLDR: Legion stealth is brilliant, which is not that surprising considering the game was developed by Ubisoft Toronto/Splinter Cell devs and was led by Clint Hocking - creative director of Chaos Theory, which is the best Splinter Cell game to date.

what do you mean when you say then you die it is not like watchodgs 1 or 2 or any other other action games where you lose some minutes of gameplay? that how allation games are. what is different in watch dogs legion?