Most useful thing you've got from ESP?

[Second Duke Revier]

What's the most useful thing the ESP skill has given you? I had it grant a Moonstone which let me forge Dragon Claws for Rena fairly early on my current run, that was pretty cool.

[Terra]

Mithril is the hands down winner. Getting to craft the Eternal Sphere/Aeterna after the Arms Tournament is too strong.

[Second Duke Revier]

I'm not sure it actually is. For one, it requires two pieces of Mithril, which involves getting lucky with ESP twice. For two, it requires Claude's Customization to be level 10, else you only end up with the Blade of Minos, which is a fine enough weapon, but with noticeable drawbacks. I mean, I'm sure you can keep gambling on the abysmal odds with saving and loading, but that's clearly more of a meta "exploit" thing, and is rather tedious to do honestly.

The Dragon Claws, by contrast, only requires a basic fighting glove, a moonstone, and getting Rena's Customization to level 7, which, by using Writing or careful skill point allocation, isn't that hard. Heck, I got it by the Forest of Symbols. That's considerably earlier than the Armory Contest!

[Almighty Boof]

The vast majority of players are not going to be attacking with Rena, so the best use for Dragon Claw is giving it to Bowman, who you don't get until after the tourny, and he will have access to the Blazing Knuckles at that point. Also, the Goodie Box is before the Forest of Symbols, so you can either save scum for Rena's much more useful Sorcerer's Knuckles, or save scum for a... Moonstone?? Another thing is that there are very few battles that Rena actually fights in between Forest of Symbols and Linga (heck, you don't even need her in the Forest because Air Slash), so the use of Dragon Claw would be minimal, at best.

There is no comparison to Dragon Claw and Aeterna. Aeterna demolishes Dragon Claw when it comes to damage. It has double the attack power without the extra hit and it sprays glitter in the enemy's face to boot. Having Aeterna after the tourny is, in fact, way too strong. Yes, Dragon Claw is easier to make, but that's because it isn't as good.

Anyways, to answer your question based off my own experience, the most useful thing I got from ESP is putting those skill points into a different skill. ESP is literally the LAST thing I ever put points into, unless I want Mithril early.

[Second Duke Revier]

For the most part, save scumming for powerful weapons via the Goodie Box is just another meta exploit, it doesn't feel like an intended aspect of the game and is pretty tedious to pull off unless you get incredibly lucky.

That said, I agree that ESP in general isn't too useful, normally I ignore it(and all of the Oracle based skills), only investing one point into it during the early portions of the game to see if it turns up anything good.

[Wirewing]

Originally posted by Second Duke of Aeria Revier:

For the most part, save scumming for powerful weapons via the Goodie Box is just another meta exploit, it doesn't feel like an intended aspect of the game and is pretty tedious to pull off unless you get incredibly lucky.

That said, I agree that ESP in general isn't too useful, normally I ignore it(and all of the Oracle based skills), only investing one point into it during the early portions of the game to see if it turns up anything good.

Got end game weapons for 7/8 in 20 minutes and 14 goodie boxes from fishing rewards upon reaching Linga. I felt that it wasn't worth doing it any more to get all 8/8.