STAR OCEAN THE SECOND STORY R

STAR OCEAN THE SECOND STORY R

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rsan 13 NOV 2023 a las 10:40 p. m.
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Spoilers Rena 😡🤬😡
So, I so want to abandoned her and kick her out of the party because of her whole dias worship she has. She is a freaking pick me girl and I can't stand them. I means she has demonstrated not once, not twice , but three times dias comes first for her already instead of the party.

That being said this is a clear example of old school linear progression from the glory days.

Mod request for a way to get rid of her.
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Pnume 14 NOV 2023 a las 3:29 a. m. 
She has known Dias for year and sees him as her big brother.

But yes she should prioritize a bunch of strangers she has just met and her new crush
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Powersword 14 NOV 2023 a las 4:17 a. m. 
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That was the straw that broke the camals back. She knew Claude needed and sword and she went " let me give the overly powered dias the ultimate kill stick...it's okay I will spend all my mana healing claude up after he gets stomped like a cockroach..."

What? By the time Rena meets Sufia and Gamgee Claude has already selected a sponsor, and cannot switch. This is literally address in dialogue. Claude didn't need a sword at this point, he already had one.
If you’re playing Claude all you know is she runs off to help Dias. For the player it’s clear at this point in the game she is more worried about Dias than Claude and does her best to find him a sword. Rena keeps the facts to herself so to Claude it’s pretty disrespectful at the point in the story. Especially given had rude Dias is to Claude
Ka'a 14 NOV 2023 a las 5:26 a. m. 
it dosen't change the fact that claude dosen't need one...
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Powersword 14 NOV 2023 a las 5:42 a. m. 
Dias didn’t need a sword. Apart from just to defeat Claude. Claude had to get a sword for an audience with the king
LeoChris64 14 NOV 2023 a las 5:54 a. m. 
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Dias didn’t need a sword. Apart from just to defeat Claude. Claude had to get a sword for an audience with the king
Again, Claude *already* had a sword before Rena ran off and met Dias (purely by chance, might I add). He gets a sword right after signing up for the tournament, before Rena goes anywhere.

At *worst* you could argue that getting Dias to partake in the tournament lowers Claude's odds of winning, and is thus counterproductive to their greater goal of inquiring about the Sorcery Globe, and Rena should thus be hoping only bad swordsmen enter. I think that's an incredibly short sighted reading though.
Powersword 14 NOV 2023 a las 6:03 a. m. 
Did you play as Rena? Rena runs off twice during the event. Both to support Dias. If you’re playing as Rena the scene plays out differently as she’s just worried about him and then helps him with to find the stolen sword. No idea how you could think getting him a sword would be good or fair for the story as Claude needed to win to see the king. She knew fully well he’d beat Claude so there’s no reason or excuse
Ka'a 14 NOV 2023 a las 6:14 a. m. 
no claude dosen't want to see the king. claude want to prove himself. getting Dias out would not help claude.

if you played as Rena your know that your are totaly unfair.

Rena goal wasn't to help Dias she want to help the girl. she dosen't know if the sword is good.

then when Dias can't get his sword she felt guilty because she was the one that puted dias in that position.

if rena stay with claude all along Dias get a standart sponsor and win the tournament it dosen't change anything.
LeoChris64 14 NOV 2023 a las 6:18 a. m. 
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Did you play as Rena? Rena runs off twice during the event. Both to support Dias. If you’re playing as Rena the scene plays out differently as she’s just worried about him and then helps him with to find the stolen sword. No idea how you could think getting him a sword would be good or fair for the story as Claude needed to win to see the king. She knew fully well he’d beat Claude so there’s no reason or excuse
I played both stories, multiple times. Upon meeting Sufia, when asked if she knows anyone entering the tournament, her very first thought is to name Claude, before remembering he already has a weapon. Sufia then points out he cannot switch if he's already selected a sponsor.

She then drags Sufia to the bar, in order to find a warrior willing to wield Gamgee's sword in the contest and bump into Dias *completely by chance*.

Sufia wasn't about to give up and leave Gamgee as the only shop in the city without a sponsor, whether it was Dias or not *someone* was going to be using that sword. It's not some big anti-Claude conspiracy. I understand why he's upset, especially since she misses the first match but at the end of the day she cannot be blamed for trying to help a little girl.
Xengre 14 NOV 2023 a las 8:25 a. m. 
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What? By the time Rena meets Sufia and Gamgee Claude has already selected a sponsor, and cannot switch. This is literally address in dialogue. Claude didn't need a sword at this point, he already had one.
If you’re playing Claude all you know is she runs off to help Dias. For the player it’s clear at this point in the game she is more worried about Dias than Claude and does her best to find him a sword. Rena keeps the facts to herself so to Claude it’s pretty disrespectful at the point in the story. Especially given had rude Dias is to Claude
LeoChris already answered most of it, however, playing Claude's story you also find out just a bit later after the tournament and at the base when you meet Dias again. This stuff going on with Rena and Dias is fairly well explained.
Powersword 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:01 a. m. 
Pray for Claude :blushing: :so2r_claude: he deserves better
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This PC 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:02 a. m. 
Rena likes Dias AND Claude, and when they look at each other sideways, she doesn't know on which foot to dance, that's all. She doesn't prefer either, but she likes them for different reasons.

If you want further reassurance that she likes claude, whatever happens, she left her whole life behind on a whim to go on an adventure with Claude, and ultimately, it's with him that she sticks, whether Dias follows along or not.

I mean, Rena's a 17 years old orphan, not having your ♥♥♥♥ together at this point in life is par for the course, imagine if you layer circumstances on top of that. Nothing to do with being a "pick me up girl".
Última edición por This PC; 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:05 a. m.
Powersword 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:13 a. m. 
Claude is like one of the purest kindest heroes you get can. Rena needs to get her ♥♥♥♥ together :shigure2: :so2r_rena: :so2r_dias:
Última edición por Powersword; 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:14 a. m.
This PC 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:15 a. m. 
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Claude is like one of the purest kindest heroes you get can. Rena needs to get her ♥♥♥♥ together :shigure2: :so2r_rena: :so2r_dias:

She does, she sticks with Claude. There is no ambiguity past the Lacuer front lines.
KaosReigns 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:22 a. m. 
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Claude is like one of the purest kindest heroes you get can. Rena needs to get her ♥♥♥♥ together :shigure2: :so2r_rena: :so2r_dias:

She does, she sticks with Claude. There is no ambiguity past the Lacuer front lines.

Even prior to that, I think people are misunderstanding her feelings in the start. She doesnt start liking Claude for himself till way later.

What she fell in love with at the start was the "hero of light". Not Claude himself. It could have been anyone that shot the beam, and she would think the same thing and do the same things she did for Claude.

She literally doesnt know a thing about Claude during the point people keep talking about, and im pretty sure, he still hasnt told them yet that he isnt even from their planet. To be honest, I dont recall if he ever actually tells them, due to the law he quoted himself.
This PC 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:27 a. m. 
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She literally doesnt know a thing about Claude during the point people keep talking about, and im pretty sure, he still hasnt told them yet that he isnt even from their planet. To be honest, I dont recall if he ever actually tells them, due to the law he quoted himself.

She becomes most aware by the time you get to Nede and beyond. ^^''
Claude breaks the UP3 at least a dozen times haha, and then you throw opera and ernest into the mix that are from elsewhere too and it all muddies it a lot.

It's never made into this grand reveal like laeticia going to space in so6 though (I loved this so much ;_;). It's just implied, kinda, that she knows. Definitely an older style of "straight to the point" storytelling in so2.

I agree with everything else you said. Dias and Rena grew up together, they're like family, no romantic tension between them. Dias and Rena are also trauma bonded over the death of Dias' family.
Última edición por This PC; 14 NOV 2023 a las 9:33 a. m.
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