What is your most broken set up?

[Pnume]

This one is pretty stupid

https://imgur.com/a/rPgV0t1

Bloody Armor: I loose life continuously and pretty fast but I'm totally invulnerable
My sword turn 5% of damages in MP
Symbol of Antiquity protect me against aiments

All I have to do is spam Sword of Life

The only thing that can stop Claude are enemies who don't take any damage or are very hard to hit. If not for them, I could solo the game with that.

[Yílõng Má]

That thing is considered by the community as cheat mode lol, because you literally can't die.

You don't even need that stupid Sword of Life, just spam auto attack with Aeterna + Life Drain and Ring of Lightspeed + Berserker Ring.

The best non-cheat thing is Precis spamming Forcefield. It's basically legal Bloody Armor / Bloody Helmet. No one considers it as cheating yet lol .

[Pnume]

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

That thing is considered by the community as cheat mode lol, because you literally can't die.

You don't even need that stupid Sword of Life, just spam auto attack with Aeterna + Life Drain and Ring of Lightspeed + Berserker Ring.

The best non-cheat thing is Precis spamming Forcefield. It's basically legal Bloody Armor / Bloody Helmet. No one considers it as cheating yet lol :lol_tk:.

It really feels like a cheat code.

I did the temple of love (on Universe) as my 2nd temple...solo and didn't break a sweat

[Yílõng Má]

Publicado originalmente por Pnume:

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

That thing is considered by the community as cheat mode lol, because you literally can't die.

You don't even need that stupid Sword of Life, just spam auto attack with Aeterna + Life Drain and Ring of Lightspeed + Berserker Ring.

The best non-cheat thing is Precis spamming Forcefield. It's basically legal Bloody Armor / Bloody Helmet. No one considers it as cheating yet lol .

It really feels like a cheat code.

I did the temple of love (on Universe) as my 2nd temple...solo and didn't break a sweat

Dude, with that setup, you can right away solo kill the 3 post-game bosses all together with your current level. It just takes time but you literally can't lose. That's why that setup is frowned upon by the community, + Veghesther factor lol .

[Raoh]

Since becoming invincible with either bloody armor or helmet you just send it full attack mode.
So Bloody Helmet and a weapon with MP drain sets you up.
For instance Dias ultimate weapon makes him Crit all the time so instead of placing MP drain you can go ATK 20% or put poison since it works on any boss. and on Armor add the Factor CRT Energy (critical hits restore 1% MP). My Dias does about 40k per hit so recovering mp is not an issue when you hit 3 times per normal attack.
Then get Winged Bracelet or light speed for +2 attack and Ring of might for that boost in attack and double damage or Berserker ring.
If anything else you place Gathering Stars Factor for that extra boost in stats but its not needed you cannot be killed.

[no_idea_for_a_name]

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

Publicado originalmente por Pnume:

It really feels like a cheat code.

I did the temple of love (on Universe) as my 2nd temple...solo and didn't break a sweat

Dude, with that setup, you can right away solo kill the 3 post-game bosses all together with your current level. It just takes time but you literally can't lose. That's why that setup is frowned upon by the community, + Veghesther factor lol :lol_tk:.

No community frowns upon anything! It's just some people and it's certainly a very small minority. For every game that allows the player to become extremely powerful, there's always a ton of questions on their forums asking how to do it. Why? Because it's fun. So no, there's no supposed community that frowns upon anything of the sort!

[Yílõng Má]

Publicado originalmente por no_idea_for_a_name:

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

Dude, with that setup, you can right away solo kill the 3 post-game bosses all together with your current level. It just takes time but you literally can't lose. That's why that setup is frowned upon by the community, + Veghesther factor lol .

No community frowns upon anything! It's just some people and it's certainly a very small minority. For every game that allows the player to become extremely powerful, there's always a ton of questions on their forums asking how to do it. Why? Because it's fun. So no, there's no supposed community that frowns upon anything of the sort!

Then why did people ♥♥♥♥ so much on Veghesther back in the day lol?

[no_idea_for_a_name]

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

Publicado originalmente por no_idea_for_a_name:

No community frowns upon anything! It's just some people and it's certainly a very small minority. For every game that allows the player to become extremely powerful, there's always a ton of questions on their forums asking how to do it. Why? Because it's fun. So no, there's no supposed community that frowns upon anything of the sort!

Then why did people ♥♥♥♥ so much on Veghesther back in the day lol?

Count those people. What's that number?

[AH-1 Cobra]

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

Dude, with that setup, you can right away solo kill the 3 post-game bosses all together with your current level. It just takes time but you literally can't lose. That's why that setup is frowned upon by the community, + Veghesther factor lol :lol_tk:.

Who/what is Veghesther?

[leqesai]

Easily the most broken setup is:
Claude, Dias, Opera, Ernest imo
4x bloody armor
Infinite healing spam potential
Unbeatable

[ChrisPharmD]

I opened a Jack In The Box right before Krosse Castle and I got some Steel Armor or something. The armor was so high that I got permastunned by birds at the mountain place and Celine and Rena wasted all their MP so it was just me permastunned getting attacked by 3 birds all doing 0 damage.

Then, I opened another Jack-in-The-Box and I wont ever open another one because as soon as the fight started I was instakilled by some vacuum cleaner looking enemies.

[Broso]

Publicado originalmente por Raoh:

Since becoming invincible with either bloody armor or helmet you just send it full attack mode.
So Bloody Helmet and a weapon with MP drain sets you up.
For instance Dias ultimate weapon makes him Crit all the time so instead of placing MP drain you can go ATK 20% or put poison since it works on any boss. and on Armor add the Factor CRT Energy (critical hits restore 1% MP). My Dias does about 40k per hit so recovering mp is not an issue when you hit 3 times per normal attack.
Then get Winged Bracelet or light speed for +2 attack and Ring of might for that boost in attack and double damage or Berserker ring.
If anything else you place Gathering Stars Factor for that extra boost in stats but its not needed you cannot be killed.

Might as well go for CRT Super Boost, which heals 2% HP&MP on crit.

[Azaeal]

Publicado originalmente por leqesai:

Easily the most broken setup is:
Claude, Dias, Opera, Ernest imo
4x bloody armor
Infinite healing spam potential
Unbeatable

You don't even need 4 characters. While doing ending grind, I was able to easily beat Unlimited Gabriel with just Claude with Bloody Armor + Planteer with life steal on Universe. Bloody armor is an absolute joke.

[no_idea_for_a_name]

Publicado originalmente por Pie:

Publicado originalmente por leqesai:

Easily the most broken setup is:
Claude, Dias, Opera, Ernest imo
4x bloody armor
Infinite healing spam potential
Unbeatable

You don't even need 4 characters. While doing ending grind, I was able to easily beat Unlimited Gabriel with just Claude with Bloody Armor + Planteer with life steal on Universe. Bloody armor is an absolute joke.

What's Planteer?

[Mauman]

Publicado originalmente por Yílõng Má:

Publicado originalmente por no_idea_for_a_name:

No community frowns upon anything! It's just some people and it's certainly a very small minority. For every game that allows the player to become extremely powerful, there's always a ton of questions on their forums asking how to do it. Why? Because it's fun. So no, there's no supposed community that frowns upon anything of the sort!

Then why did people ♥♥♥♥ so much on Veghesther back in the day lol?

Because his particular special opinion states that bloody armor is the ONLY way to play. Pretty much the same thing people do when they look down on Bloody armor. Just from the opposite side.

Funny how that works.

Publicado originalmente por AH-1 Cobra:

Who/what is Veghesther?

A long-timer on the gamefaqs board who's infamous for his, let's say dedication, to how this game should be played.

[Princess]

If you are just going to cheese the entire hard content with bloody armor, why even play? The fact that this idiotic armor made it in even the original is sad, but the fact that it also was in the remake as well with no nerfs is just stupid.