Do you realize how broken female fighters are in this game?

[Kornelisu]

I'll go with:
Welch
Chisato
Precis / Ernest
Opera

Welch with her Slappity Stick is broken! I can even beat Ten Wise Men in less than 10 seconds with it.
Welch combined with Chisato's Flamethrower/Tear Gas and Precis Force Field, Opera as Healer & Hyperlauncher, the enemy can barely even move!
Ernest is also very buffed in this version, his Thousand Tails and Sonic Whip are amazing!

[Some Black Dude]

Just on weapons alone, Welch and Precis have weapons that give them stupid damage....(Welch's gives her triple attack with 3 males in the party and Precis' basically makes her to 99k dmg pretty often).

Slappity Slap from Welch is one of the most disrespectful attacks in the game lol.

[Mauman]

Pretty sure every party member is in some way broken this time around.

Which is great, btw. Balance is overrated.

[maestro]

Welch?

I don't remember her. Is she a new character to the Remaster? Or did they just butcher her name in the original translation?

And I've been noticing that the game in general is just fricken easy. Like, Celine's spells are ridiculous now, even early game. I remember Celine being mostly dead weight until like... near the end of Lacuer when she starts finally learning her better spells. But dude, some of her early spells are way better now.

Can't wait until I can see what Precis can do now...

[Mauman]

Originally posted by maestro:

Welch?

Character added in the psp version. Also a recurring character in the series (and added in the remakes of the pre-SO3 games). Highly implied to be from a specific base breaking race from SO3, if you catch my drift.

Also, yes. This game was already quite breakable in it's original state. All of the added stuff just makes it even more bonkers. Playing this game on Universe is pretty much a must if you have ANY prior knowledge on how this game works.

As for Precis, due to the fact the damage limit get's upped an extra digit eventually, she can get to the max damage cap easier than some evidently. Balanced by the fact she can't wear Bloody armor.*

*I swear I'm not Vegh.

[maestro]

Originally posted by Mauman:

Which is great, btw. Balance is overrated.

Just look at Tales of Berseria.

The heroine of that game is entirely, utterly, unashamedly overpowered and yet that game tops most peoples' lists of Tales of games and it has a rather high ranking on many peoples' AJRPG lists in general.

[REhorror]

I must get Chisato and Precis!!!

[maestro]

Originally posted by Mauman:

Originally posted by maestro:

Welch?

Character added in the psp version. Also a recurring character in the series (and added in the remakes of the pre-SO3 games). Highly implied to be a specific base breaking race from SO3, if you catch my drift.

Also, yes. This game was already quite breakable in it's original state. All of the added stuff just makes it even more bonkers. Playing this game on Universe is pretty much a must if you have ANY prior knowledge on how this game works.

As for Precis, due to the fact the damage limit get's upped an extra digit eventually, she can get to the max damage cap easier than some evidently. Balanced by the fact she can't wear Bloody armor.*

*I swear I'm not Vegh.

Ahh, I never played the PSP version.

I wonder if the Remaster has the same character exclusivity going on, like if you recruit Opera, you must get Ernest and you cannot get Ashton? And/or the same # of slots, because adding a new character, you'd have to get rid of somebody to make room for Welch, not sure who I'd get rid of, other than maybe Noel because he always seemed like a weak attempt to combine Celine and Rena into one and doing poorly at it, but IIRC Noel is a required character who always joins you.

[Mauman]

Originally posted by maestro:

but IIRC Noel is a required character who always joins you.

Actually, I just asked about this in another topic. Due to Welch's existence it's possible to completely bypass Noel joining you as it's now possible to get 8 party members on Expel.

[Kornelisu]

Originally posted by maestro:

Welch?

I don't remember her. Is she a new character to the Remaster? Or did they just butcher her name in the original translation?

And I've been noticing that the game in general is just fricken easy. Like, Celine's spells are ridiculous now, even early game. I remember Celine being mostly dead weight until like... near the end of Lacuer when she starts finally learning her better spells. But dude, some of her early spells are way better now.

Can't wait until I can see what Precis can do now...

You should try recruiting Welch and build her up, you won't regret it.

But you're right, I think this version is a bit easier than the PS1 version, because there are many extras and 'gifts', also crafting customizing etc is much easier in this version, so we can get good weapons in the early to mid game.

And for the Mage, it's heavily buffed and there's no need to wait to finish the animation. I love Celine! And will continue to 2nd playthrough with Claude to recruit Leon.

[Kornelisu]

Originally posted by Some Black Dude:

Just on weapons alone, Welch and Precis have weapons that give them stupid damage....(Welch's gives her triple attack with 3 males in the party and Precis' basically makes her to 99k dmg pretty often).

Slappity Slap from Welch is one of the most disrespectful attacks in the game lol.

Lol, Gabriel's pride was trampled when he was slapped with the Slappity Stick.

[maestro]

Originally posted by Kornelius:

You should try recruiting Welch and build her up, you won't regret it.

So another question, is Welch harder to find? Not asking for huge spoilers, but I wanna make sure I grab her on my way through, and don't do something stupid and miss her.

But you're right, I think this version is a bit easier than the PS1 version, because there are many extras and 'gifts', also crafting customizing etc is much easier in this version, so we can get good weapons in the early to mid game.

I noticed that when the guild had me make a freaking FLAME SWORD before even getting to Celine's hometown, I was like "wtf!" and also all the jewelry I was pumping out effortlessly.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by Mauman:

Originally posted by maestro:

but IIRC Noel is a required character who always joins you.

Actually, I just asked about this in another topic. Due to Welch's existence it's possible to completely bypass Noel joining you as it's now possible to get 8 party members on Expel.

He meant Leon, not Noel.

[maestro]

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

Originally posted by Mauman:

Actually, I just asked about this in another topic. Due to Welch's existence it's possible to completely bypass Noel joining you as it's now possible to get 8 party members on Expel.

He meant Leon, not Noel.

If you're referring to me, no, I was talking about Noel, the animal preservation guy who joins you on Nede. IIRC, he always joins you no matter what, because you always have 7 characters when you get to him, as Leon/Dias are exclusive to each other and IIRC, Precis/Bowman are exclusive. Though I forget who fills Ernest's spot if you end up grabbing Ashton...

[Kornelisu]

Originally posted by maestro:

So another question, is Welch harder to find? Not asking for huge spoilers, but I wanna make sure I grab her on my way through, and don't do something stupid and miss her.

She's not hard to recruit, it's just that she's missable. Just do PA often.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by maestro:

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

He meant Leon, not Noel.

If you're referring to me, no, I was talking about Noel, the animal preservation guy who joins you on Nede. IIRC, he always joins you no matter what, because you always have 7 characters when you get to him, as Leon/Dias are exclusive to each other and IIRC, Precis/Bowman are exclusive. Though I forget who fills Ernest's spot if you end up grabbing Ashton...

He doesn't always join you because Chisato is the last recruitable member. You can deny Noel while having 7 members only to get Chisato after that.

At that point when Noel joins, you can also already max your party member by getting Opera, Ernest, Welch.