Diminishing Returns on XP?

[Fate]

Is there diminishing returns? It sure seems like I'm seeing less xp as I level up.

If so, that's a real shame.

[Xengre]

I've not played much of SO2R yet, but what I can tell you is Star Ocean games usually have some type of exponential exp growth rather than scaling based on your vs enemy level some games employ. However, this means that as you get higher level exp will quickly drop off from lesser exp sources. In contrast, higher exp sources from strong enemies (ex post game or if you go somewhere and kill something much higher level than you) can result in 10s to 50s of level jumps in a single fight.

Max level is 255 in each of the SO games, but most SO games end around lv 40-90 depending on which SO entry if that helps further paint a better understanding. Those higher levels aren't much of a grind due to explosive exp and escalating enemy content post game Tri-Ace dungeon design is famous for.

[Fate]

Ahh thanks.

Yea I just learned that the remake is more in the style of SO4/SO6 so things are a bit different in how my usual power-leveling route will work compared to the originals.

[harfainx]

Experience needed increases, and experience is divided among party members. As your party grows, each character gets less exp from the same enemies.

[AH-1 Cobra]

Power leveling in this is to use scouting to increase enemy spawns, and link 5. Make sure training is enabled for bonus exp gains, and also use an experience card. You'll rake in level ups. Pick and chose your fights wisely, when you do fight be sure to link 5. Exp cards can be duplicated with replication, which basically means they're free. Forged medals, if you can get one can boost any character to 100, and can also be replicated.

[Augoeides]

It's definitely severely nerfed. The strategy for the original game, if you had the skill for it, was to grab some early gear and bum rush the mountains, where you could easily get 3 to 5 levels a battle. If you spent like an hour there, you'd get to lv50+ easily, which would be enough to help you do some crazy things and generally just have fun with SO2.

I went to the mountains last night at lv30, and a single battle didn't even put a dent in what I needed to level. It seems like they're forcing us to the stupid damn multi-battle system, which somehow makes combat a significantly higher chore, than if we just did random battles. Especially since special attacks don't even seem to upgrade now, which I absolutely hate.

[Neon Glowboy]

chain battles give exponentially more bp/sp than each battle would give individually and it's still faster than wandering for those battles
on top of that, bodyguard acts like an exp generator once the mountain and desert mobs turn green

[Oragepoilu]

Note : i'm playong on universe.

Small tip for very early game : there is an encounter in the forest at the very start that cna appear at the end of it (or may not appear, just teleport back at the entrance if not).
It's the blob-spike thing that divide itself.
While it can easily wipe you, once you have two char you can have claude auto attack and use rena to attack right between each combo of claude to prevent the blob from doing anything (most of the time). I got tons of level per fight when he was shown as red. (IIRC it was around 1300xp if not more)

another small tip for early game : On top of the moutain (if you know, you know) you can find a semi-boss monster (fixed encounter that apply a debuff).

You can teleport to the save point, walk down past the monster, then have him slowly hug the cliff when he try to go back into his spot as you run away. Because he hug the cliff, he is slow enough for you to ctach him by surprise every single time very quickly (since it's right next to the save point, that also heal you).

While you don't earn much fols from it (500 + 1-3 food that sell 200-250 each), claude can easily facetank this encounter if you focus on defence. Not too long and give 4800xp.
What's left is avoiding the stone effect (I don't have any items to do this, I just control rena and stick into melee range of the boss since he can only do range attack while claude clear the field). Note that it cost 450 to remove stone effect, and rena spell is too slow to be used here unless you apply slow on every monster ASAP and hope for the best.

[Donttouchmyhohos]

Originally posted by Fate:

Is there diminishing returns? It sure seems like I'm seeing less xp as I level up.

If so, that's a real shame.

there are skills that reduce the required exp to level up

[square_12345]

Originally posted by Donttouchmyhohos:

Originally posted by Fate:

Is there diminishing returns? It sure seems like I'm seeing less xp as I level up.

If so, that's a real shame.

there are skills that reduce the required exp to level up

Effort only effects one xp level per skill level. Level it once for train and then save the last nine levels for the endgame.

[AceMan#1]

Originally posted by AH-1 Cobra:

Power leveling in this is to use scouting to increase enemy spawns, and link 5. Make sure training is enabled for bonus exp gains, and also use an experience card. You'll rake in level ups. Pick and chose your fights wisely, when you do fight be sure to link 5. Exp cards can be duplicated with replication, which basically means they're free. Forged medals, if you can get one can boost any character to 100, and can also be replicated.

You can also upgrade and use the IC/Specialty train which lowers your stats but ups your exp by a ton so you don't even need to use an exp card, easy to do this by turning difficulty down to earth mode and rake the exp and then once you get the levels you need then turn it both scout and train off and continue on.