Reviews are dropping

[Simatron3000]

It's good https://www.metacritic.com/game/star-ocean-the-second-story-r/

[Vilipili]

As expected, the original is one of the best JRPGs ever so it's not a surprise that it will score well even in today's stantards.

[Spoonardo]

Originally posted by Vilipili:

As expected, the original is one of the best JRPGs ever so it's not a surprise that it will score well even in today's stantards.

Are stantards like standards, only a lot more special?

[Louis Cypher]

Of course, the original is better than most of today's games.
Enix alone was superb.
Squaresoftr aloen was superb.

The combination of the two only produced mediocre stuff like FF12 and onwards.

[N7 ElusiveOne]

TIL: FF12 was mediocre.

[Neon Glowboy]

I could not care less about any other review except mine, which will be great.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by N7 ElusiveOne:

TIL: FF12 was mediocre.

In terms of JRPG, it was.

Edit: ♥♥♥♥, I thought you were talking about 14 lol.

TIL: FF12 was mediocre 🤣🤣.

It's one of the best, brother and sister.

[Jayhova]

Originally posted by Louis Cypher:

Of course, the original is better than most of today's games.
Enix alone was superb.
Squaresoftr aloen was superb.

The combination of the two only produced mediocre stuff like FF12 and onwards.

Nah, Dragon quest VIII was pretty good.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by Don Cartagena:

Originally posted by Louis Cypher:

Of course, the original is better than most of today's games.
Enix alone was superb.
Squaresoftr aloen was superb.

The combination of the two only produced mediocre stuff like FF12 and onwards.

Nah, Dragon quest VIII was pretty good.

It was developed before the "SquareEnix". Square and Enix merged in 2003, Dragon Quest 8 was released in 2004 but had been developed from 2001, way before SquareEnix.

[REhorror]

We won.

[chris100185]

Originally posted by N7 ElusiveOne:

TIL: FF12 was mediocre.

I remember seeing that opinion a lot online a few years ago, then it seems with the re- release that the general opinion has shifted. I've always thought the game was just boring. Boring story, largely boring cast with an awful protagonist, and a boring world.

It was easily my least favorite mainline game in the series until FF XV came in and said "Hold my beer"

[Ryotaro Dojima: Ace Detective]

Originally posted by chris100185:

Originally posted by N7 ElusiveOne:

TIL: FF12 was mediocre.

I remember seeing that opinion a lot online a few years ago, then it seems with the re- release that the general opinion has shifted. I've always thought the game was just boring. Boring story, largely boring cast with an awful protagonist, and a boring world.

It was easily my least favorite mainline game in the series until FF XV came in and said "Hold my beer"

I disagree on most of those points. Story was good, and the cast was fine. Except for Van. But he wasn't awful, as it's not like he actively dragged down the narrative much if at all. He wasn't really present, in fact, in terms of influence.

FFXII is a really good game with a pretty forgettable protagonist. Better than 8 and 10 at the very least.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by Ryotaro Dojima: Ace Detective:

Originally posted by chris100185:

I remember seeing that opinion a lot online a few years ago, then it seems with the re- release that the general opinion has shifted. I've always thought the game was just boring. Boring story, largely boring cast with an awful protagonist, and a boring world.

It was easily my least favorite mainline game in the series until FF XV came in and said "Hold my beer"

I disagree on most of those points. Story was good, and the cast was fine. Except for Van. But he wasn't awful, as it's not like he actively dragged down the narrative much if at all. He wasn't really present, in fact, in terms of influence.

FFXII is a really good game with a pretty forgettable protagonist. Better than 8 and 10 at the very least.

Definitely better than 8 and 10, the world Ivalice is also more beautiful than 7 and 14-15. Customization is good and the side contents are plenty.

[KaosReigns]

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

Originally posted by N7 ElusiveOne:

TIL: FF12 was mediocre.

In terms of JRPG, it was.

Edit: ♥♥♥♥, I thought you were talking about 14 lol.

TIL: FF12 was mediocre 🤣🤣.

It's one of the best, brother and sister.

12 wasnt bad, but its part of the Zodiac line. So you KIND of have to play through FFT before it to fully grasp its world.

Also, 14 was the MMO... Which is nothing like any of the others in the series at all.

[Yílõng Má]

Originally posted by KaosReigns:

Originally posted by Yílõng Má:

In terms of JRPG, it was.

Edit: ♥♥♥♥, I thought you were talking about 14 lol.

TIL: FF12 was mediocre 🤣🤣.

It's one of the best, brother and sister.

12 wasnt bad, but its part of the Zodiac line. So you KIND of have to play through FFT before it to fully grasp its world.

Also, 14 was the MMO... Which is nothing like any of the others in the series at all.

Ah sorry, misspoken again. I meant 13, the linear game with Lightning as protagonist.

Ivalice Alliance games were great though, they have better worldbuilding than stand alone FF games.

[Xengre]

So far reviews look a bit kinder than for the older entries with their 80, overall, but reviews aren't done so remains to be seen. I expect a lot of the effort into improving the game in a modern way and the beautiful 3D environment and various accessibility / UI improvements, etc. have boosted its overall reception years later. Perhaps indirectly the lack of quality JRPGs in modern times may also be contributing.

Originally posted by chris100185:

Originally posted by N7 ElusiveOne:

TIL: FF12 was mediocre.

I remember seeing that opinion a lot online a few years ago, then it seems with the re- release that the general opinion has shifted. I've always thought the game was just boring. Boring story, largely boring cast with an awful protagonist, and a boring world.

It was easily my least favorite mainline game in the series until FF XV came in and said "Hold my beer"

I believe it is because it literally rode off the Final Fantasy branding name despite clearly not being a Final Fantasy game at all, much as you expressed with regards to story / cast / protag- jk doesn't have one / failed romance handling / etc.

The game, itself, has its perks which is probably why years later after people got over the initial bs of the game's naming stunt from the dev basically scamming their core fans they're okay with the good sides of the game (depending on individuals taste). This is why some of the more objective reviews and opinions back then simply classified it as a "game that was decent and would have received less hate if it had its own name instead of trying to piggyback off Final Fantasy".