[Spoiler] Reference to Adols love interests?

[Admiral Awesome]

After I finished the game, I randomly remembered the dude in Lance who starts out talking with a *SIIIIIIIIIIGH* and then saying something along the lines of "A first love never works out, it's all about the second love." I wonder if that's a reference to how Adols first love (Feena) wouldn't work out, and how it would be about Lillia (even though that didn't "work out" since he just ends up leaving anyway)

Also the game was awesome...

[Korzic]

Hard to say, as we're really not given much direct insight to Adol's personality and mindset (even Memories of Celceta doesn't have much to offer on this that can't already be easily discerned). That's especially true of his love interests. Falcom seems to have left that open-ended, so who knows what they have in store for him on that front...

[Admiral Awesome]

Well the anime brings a little insight, but it only shows that he's kinda like every other hero in every other series lol

Determined, but modest, wants to help people but denies he could be the "legendary hero". Gets depressed when he lets people die and has to be motivated by his friends to remind him what he's fighting for.


I might have to play Memories of Celceta, but I find it jarring that it's almost as if none of that ever happened in Oath in Felghana. He's back to just being an "adventurer" and not the legendary hero that saved an entire nation along with their Goddesses.

[Korzic]

Well, the anime isn't considered canon, as it takes some liberties with the story (where and when Pictimos was fought, among some other stuff I'm fuzzy on). I will say that, while watching it, I got the impression that Adol's successes came about as a result of him being the "legendary hero", with not much actual skill. Playing the games, though, you tend to get the opposite feeling - that, "legendary hero" or not, he can hold his own pretty well. This is especially evident during the course of Ys Seven (though no doubt some of this is due to playing a game, and it's a good idea to make the player feel like they've accomplished something).

About Oath in Felghana, are you aware that it comes after Adol's adventure in Celceta, chronologically speaking? As for the events of I & II, Adol may have temporary amnesia about them in Memories of Celceta, though they're still momentarily referenced by other characters.

Either way, Adol strikes me as the sort of person to downplay his achievements. No clue if he buys into the whole "legendary hero" stuff when it crops up, but it seems clear that he doesn't let it define him. "Adventurer" is indeed a title more suited to him than perhaps anything else, as far as I'm concerned.

[Admiral Awesome]

That's how he is in the anime at least... As you already have mentioned, there's nothing you really can guess from the games (at least from the first two, haven't played any other games with Adol except a little into Felgana). I didn't like the feeling that the anime gave for Adol at first, but it really does make sense. He's only human, and being only 17, I doubt he's had much experience fighting giant centipedes or bat demons.

As much as I liked to think myself as the hero who can slay all the demons, it's highly unrealistic, and he's not even some master swordsman, he's a 17 year old kid who went on an adventure. He's the chosen hero protected by the goddesses and destiny, so the way the show protrayed it is really the only beleivable way, even if it's not the best emotional, or wishful way.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

He sort of goes around looking for adventure sometimes.

And the anime has a lot of odd changes, such as:
* Dalles and Jenocres terrorize the town personally. Adol kills Jenocres in town.
* Nygtilger guards Feena. Adol doesn't defeat Nygtilger by normal means either.
* Pictimos is the boss of this "forest temple".
* There is a ruined village.

[Korzic]

Originally posted by Taishita Taishou:

As much as I liked to think myself as the hero who can slay all the demons, it's highly unrealistic, and he's not even some master swordsman, he's a 17 year old kid who went on an adventure.

That may be true for the events in Ys I & II, but it's quite clear throughout the series that he has some degree of skill. As I mentioned above, the events in Ys Seven really drive this point home. The first boss fight in Ys VI pits you against a creature that can only be destroyed by weapons made of a certain material, and yet Adol manages to greatly wound it with just an ordinary long sword. I also remember one or more of the games described Adol's base weapon (either a short sword or long sword, I forget which) as having seen a great deal of use. For that to be said about a common weapon such as that suggests the wielder knows how to effectively use it.

I'm sure there's more examples, but you get the idea.

Originally posted by Quint the Electric Catfish:

* There is a ruined village.

Are you talking about Rastin, the mining village? Because that is most definitely referenced in-game by some townsfolk in Minea. There's a family staying in Minea (directly below the clinic, though I believe you can also catch them with Reah very early on when she's not at the ramparts just yet) that mentions their home was destroyed by bats (Vagullion).

[Admiral Awesome]

It's not only referenced... it's in the game lol. The mines are clearly surrounded by what looks like rubble and barrels and there's even an bent sign that when you read it says "Rastin Village".

Also when you talk to that same villager after you kill Vagullion he thanks you, saying that the ones who died can finally rest in peace.

As for the further games, of course he becomes more skilled... I'm talking about Ys I & II, I don't know anything about seven, but Felghana is already 3 years after the first one, which was spent adventuring the whole time. Just the first story alone was definitely a lot of experience with a sword for him, he may not have been able to kill giant demons of magic on his own, but all the regular enemies were definitely his own swordsmanship. I'm not saying he's terrible, even in the anime when he rushes out to help the people of Minea, Slaff says "he's pretty good with a sword!" or something like that.

I was just pointing out that he's not the best sword master in all the lands. I personally doubt even the best swordsman in their world would be able to stop Dark Fact without the aid of the Goddesses as well, these are demons made of magic that no one has really had experience fighting in 700 years. Knowing what you're fighting is half of the fighting.

It's kinda like Harry Potter, I mean the kid just happens to be "The boy who lived" only because of what his parents did. 50% or more of what he accomplishes seems to be done by other people. He's pretty much always getting lucky. He isn't particularly powerful, or more intelligent than anyone else.

[Korzic]

Sure, knowing is half the battle. The other half is actually doing it. =p That knowledge alone wouldn't have done much good unless Adol had some semblance of skill. And let's not forget the anime portrayed Dark Fact as wanting to be defeated. Sure, he has a human backstory to him in the game (or rather, the game manual), but in-game it's pretty evident he has zero intention of being put down; the demonic influence had likely consumed his humanity by that point. But who knows, maybe Falcom will expand on Dark Fact's character a bit more in a future remake. Anyway, point being, it's one thing to defeat someone that wants to be defeated, but quite another to do so to someone who has no intention of dying anytime soon. And in-game Dark Fact definitely fits the latter, as far as I'm concerned.

Also, suppose Sada was the one whom the Goddesses entrusted to defeat Dalles and Darm. Do you think he would've been able to do so? My bet is he would've put up a decent fight, but ultimately would've fallen. The reason being is that he himself admits he's not much of a warrior, at least in comparison to Adol, and that he only got as far as he did thanks to the Cleria Sword's power.

Anyway, I realize this is all pretty much empty speculation on my part. And I'm certainly not going to deny that Adol had his fair share of luck (how many chances did Dalles have to finish off Adol, and didn't even attempt to do so?) throughout the adventure. But I do believe he likely had more skill than the anime portrays.