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I only wish there was an option to see the pure graphics, not smeared with ugly postprocessing - bloom, motion blur, distortion, fog etc.
I like being wrong though, because then I can be corrected and be right.
No plans, the existing model is still true for "premium" tests. See here for details:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/support/3dmark-updates-and-upgrades
We still think that a cheap DLC every year or two is preferable to the old model where we launched new (full price) benchmark every couple of years. And no, we still cannot develop updates to 3DMark forever for a single purchase. Sorry.
Two reasons:
1. You can already run these tests on the Mac via using the iOS app on Arm-based Macs, but the experience is not the best because it is effectively a mobile phone app, not intended for computers. Getting this issue sorted is a fairly high priority for us.
2. Business demand. UL Benchmarks develops benchmarks for multiple audiences - while private home users are a major audience, they are not the only one and we offer other services as well to business users (example: https://benchmarks.ul.com/services/retail-solutions ) and for these customers, getting a better-than-"just-use-the-iOS-app" way of comparing performance between Macs and PCs is a commonly requested feature from our business customers.
Linux version needs more work to get it running natively (beyond just the workload which we do have running on it internally) and also adds another platform for our internal test processes (on the UI side) while Mac was already there (for the iOS app) so it just makes sense to tackle the platforms in this order. Mac has more customer demand from the business side, it is easier to do from the perspective of outstanding work needed and as the team is fairly small, we don't really have the development bandwidth to do both fully simultaneously while also handling all the other projects that are ongoing. We'll see how it goes, but we have publicly committed to shipping "proper" 3DMark on both Mac and Linux in 2024.
We have not yet announced any sponsorships for Steel Nomad. It might have one, just like Speed Way did. Or it might not, like Solar Bay did not.
Also do understand that these sponsorships that 3DMark has are just that - sponsors paying for logo visibility. Sponsors do not get any say on the test development beyond having input to the visual look of their brand placement and even there our art team has the final say.
I must say though, I've never felt a need to run 3DMark on my Mac.
Not sure what exactly you mean.
Our existing page detailing how 3DMark updates and upgrades work:
https://benchmarks.ul.com/support/3dmark-updates-and-upgrades
3DMark has two versions for home users:
Demo - available for free from the Steam store page. Contains a subset of tests that you can run in default mode. Currently that is Time Spy, Night Raid and Fire Strike.
We will add Steel Nomad and Steel Nomad Light in a future update in Q1 2024 to the Demo.
Advanced Edition - available for purchase. Contains the tests that were available at the time of the purchase with the exception of Storage Test DLC which is always and optional paid extra. Current list is a mile long, see here for details: https://benchmarks.ul.com/3dmark
We will add Steel Nomad and Steel Nomad Light in a future update in Q1 2024 to the Advanced Edition with no additional upgrade purchase required. Compared to the Demo, Advanced Edition will have Custom Run, Stress Test and any additional test-specific options.
In the past, some major tests were paid upgrades (Time Spy, Port Royal, Speed Way) while others have been made available at no extra cost to existing owners of Advanced Edition (for example, Wild Life, Solar Bay). This has not changed, in the future we will almost certainly have other paid upgrades with the exact same system.
We just announced in advance that the next test, Steel Nomad, will not require a paid upgrade and the intention is that it will supersede Time Spy as the "main" recommended test since all tests have a limited useful lifespan and Time Spy is already past its prime.
Notably, Time Spy is running into CPU limit issues on RTX 4090s and in some extreme cases on 4080s and 7900 XT/XTX. Also I'm sure NVIDIA and AMD and maybe even Intel will make a faster card soon enough, making the problem even worse. When a GPU benchmark is not always GPU limited, it stops being a good benchmark for the latest hardware. We do still have Time Spy Extreme that works fine with RTX 4090s but there the issue is that it is not available in the Demo, so right now you could say that PCs with slightly less than top end CPUs and RTX 4080, RTX 4090 or Radeon RX 7900 XT/XTX have a problem that 3DMark Demo may not work as a good GPU benchmark for these configurations. Steel Nomad will help solve this and ensure 3DMark supports your benchmarking needs - both with the free Demo and with the paid Advanced Edition.
Mac and Linux versions are planned to have exact same licensing. A free Demo and a paid Advanced Edition and existing licenses work. So if you now own 3DMark Advanced Edition, you will be able to run Linux version and Mac version as Advanced Edition. The only limitation is that at launch these two versions are currently confirmed to include only Steel Nomad and Steel Nomad Light. I cannot confirm anything yet on any other tests, but we have no plans to do new ports of old tests to these platforms. Internally Wild Life and Solar Bay workloads do exist for Mac and Linux, so they are a possibility but are currently not announced for the public Mac and Linux versions.
Right, gotcha. :-)
For Demo, you are correct. Demos do not have all the features, they are intended to give a taste of the full product. You will still be able to run both Steel Nomad and Steel Nomad Light and get a score.
For Advanced Edition, no. Time Spy required a paid upgrade to unlock custom settings, Stress Test and Extreme version for owners that had purchased 3DMark before release of Time Spy.
Steel Nomad will not have such an upgrade, existing owners of Advanced Edition will get all the features. Even those who bought 3DMark prior to release of Time Spy.