Low physics score?

[Archlion]

Does physics score have something to do with how powerful your cpu is? I have an A8-3870k with a 7850 and I get a score of 3900. My phyics score is around 4500 and my graphics score is also around 4500. I see other people with other cpus like fx 6300 get around 6000 and people with i5s get like 10000. Is my cpu bottlenecking?

[Caveman]

it Is Mostly reliant on the cpu from what i've heard.

[Archlion]

Originally posted by SON OF CAVEMAN:

it Is Mostly reliant on the cpu from what i've heard.

Does that mean my cpu sucks and is bottlenecking performance?

[LeVvE]

Originally posted by Archlion:

Originally posted by SON OF CAVEMAN:

it Is Mostly reliant on the cpu from what i've heard.

Does that mean my cpu sucks and is bottlenecking performance?

Yeah your CPU is really not that great, its more of a family PC CPU that runs with the integrated GPU.

[UL_James]

The Physics test is designed to stress just your CPU. The graphics load in that test is very lightweight to avoid influencing the score. The Graphics tests are designed to stress your GPU, while the Combined test (only available in Fire Strike) stresses your CPU and GPU at the same time.

[Bad_Conduct]

That sounds about right for that processor. I get near 9k for my FX-8350.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/347882

i5 should be close to mine. i7 3770k beats it.

It doesn't really "suck" considering you are past the minimum requirements for every game available.

[Archlion]

Originally posted by Bad_Conduct:

That sounds about right for that processor. I get near 9k for my FX-8350.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/347882

i5 should be close to mine. i7 3770k beats it.

It doesn't really "suck" considering you are past the minimum requirements for every game available.

Sometimes I play a game and I have lower performance than another guy with the same GPU. For example, on Warframe, my fps dips down to 40 sometimes when theres npcs and explosions but this guy on youtube has the same gpu as me and but gets 100fps avg.

[STSchiff]

Is there a physics test available that stresses your GPU? I always thought that NVidia-GPUs have in advantage in Physics due to their ability to calculate them on the Card and not send them to CPU as it is in 3DMark?

[Dr. Orange]

Originally posted by STSchiff:

I always thought that NVidia-GPUs have in advantage in Physics due to their ability to calculate them on the Card and not send them to CPU as it is in 3DMark?

That would be PhysX, not physics. PhysX is a Nvidia feature, processed by cuda cores, only present in Nvidia cards. Cpu's can also process PhysX at a certain degree, but they normally have a hard time doing it.

@Arclion
Physics in benchmark is CPU intensive processing, so yes, with a low physichs score, the cpu is the bottleneck.
Remember that not many games are very cpu intensive, so don't let a low benchmark score ruin your day.
Benchmarks are most useful for hardware buff's who want to tune and run stability tests together with overclocking and such.

[Archlion]

Originally posted by Dr. Orange:

Originally posted by STSchiff:

I always thought that NVidia-GPUs have in advantage in Physics due to their ability to calculate them on the Card and not send them to CPU as it is in 3DMark?

That would be PhysX, not physics. PhysX is a Nvidia feature, processed by cuda cores, only present in Nvidia cards. Cpu's can also process PhysX at a certain degree, but they normally have a hard time doing it.

@Arclion
Physics in benchmark is CPU intensive processing, so yes, with a low physichs score, the cpu is the bottleneck.
Remember that not many games are very cpu intensive, so don't let a low benchmark score ruin your day.
Benchmarks are most useful for hardware buff's who want to tune and run stability tests together with overclocking and such.

Do you know what kind of games are CPU intensive, I feel like upgrading to something like a phenom 965 black edition or i5. Is it really worth the extra 100-200$ for the better cpu?

[Dr. Orange]

CPU intensive games? Well, the most cpu intensive game I know of would be Battlefield 3 64edition.
See, very few games are made to take advantage of multi core processing, so if you are planning for an upgrade, within a budget, save some buck's on the CPU, and put them in the graphics department.
Both Phenom 965 and i5 are great cpu's for gaming. None of them will bottleneck you for a long time.
It may seem, from reviews, AMD offer a little more bang for the buck, but only marginally.
For gaming, put your money in a good graphics card, that's where the battle goes.

[Archlion]

Originally posted by Dr. Orange:

CPU intensive games? Well, the most cpu intensive game I know of would be Battlefield 3 64edition.
See, very few games are made to take advantage of multi core processing, so if you are planning for an upgrade, within a budget, save some buck's on the CPU, and put them in the graphics department.
Both Phenom 965 and i5 are great cpu's for gaming. None of them will bottleneck you for a long time.
It may seem, from reviews, AMD offer a little more bang for the buck, but only marginally.
For gaming, put your money in a good graphics card, that's where the battle goes.

I think I'm fine with the 7850 for now, my A8-3870k and the motherboard costed me $150 total. Would it be worth it to sell that for less than half the price and rebuy a new cpu + motherboard which will probably cost me $250 for the better CPU. Would it be much improvement or just a little?

[Dr. Orange]

Just out of my personal point of view, I'd say stay with your current cpu/ mobo combo.
The actual difference will probably dissapoint you, mostly because, in game, it's the video card which makes the biggest difference.
The 7850 is a great budget gaming card, with good performance balance compared to the cpu/ mobo combo.
The reason why you begin asking this would probably be because of your bench results.
Well, in my book, 3DMark is per definition broken.
If you suspect your rig is falling back, take a look at your ingame cpu temperatures. If the temp raises, the performance will fall. If your cpu USUALLY overheat, well then it can be either bad airflow, or it really is your bottleneck.
If the cpu really is your bottleneck, well, then you may consider something new.
If you plan to upgrade, do it for the right reasons, and put your hard earned money at the right place.
Don't let 3Dmark ruin your day, they have already ruined mine, but that's a whole different story^^

[spoiledkid81]

"CPU intensive games? Well, the most cpu intensive game I know of would be Battlefield 3 64edition."

wait,there is a 64 bit edition of BF3 ?

[Dr. Orange]

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
No, there is no 64bit version of bf3, but there is a 64 player mode.