3DMark
ishboo May 1, 2013 @ 10:18am
what a waste
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.
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Most big games come with their own benchmarking tool, I'd suggest using that. But in the end of the day it's best to play yourself and record that. Even then, FPS is not what you really want in the end of the day. That's an old and failed way of measuring your experience.

You want, in the end of the day, for your experience to be smooth. Not just a high FPS counter.

@Toonen: I would not even use the free version. This is a synthetic benchmark. It does not reflect the performance of ANY game out there. Why? Because every engine is different. And it will produce a different result on different hardware.

The bottom line is: it's not enough to benchmark using a tool that will only show you FPS for a pre created scene in ONE engine.
Last edited by .neo (っ◔◡◔)っ.; May 1, 2013 @ 10:30am
Toonen1988 May 1, 2013 @ 10:26am 
What did you expected?

This is an test application for hardware guys and hardware reviewers. They release every year an new version with new content. This is one of the best benchmarks ever created.

They bring every year an free version and an paid version. If you dont see the point in bying it, then use the free version, simple isnt it?

It isnt called benchmark for an reason!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)

Read the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ info store page before bying..

The first version was released in 1998, they are creating this software for many years now.

This is created by people. The developers need mouths to feed, if they create everything for free how can they earn money with it, sponsors? dont let me laugh.. Money doenst grow on tree's, respect that!
Last edited by Toonen1988; May 1, 2013 @ 10:35am
Wartinald May 1, 2013 @ 11:00am 
I know.
[dse]Circlestrafe May 1, 2013 @ 11:01am 
Originally posted by TDNLToonen1988:
What did you expected?

This is an test application for hardware guys and hardware reviewers. They release every year an new version with new content. This is one of the best benchmarks ever created.

They bring every year an free version and an paid version. If you dont see the point in bying it, then use the free version, simple isnt it?

It isnt called benchmark for an reason!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benchmark_(computing)

Read the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ info store page before bying..

The first version was released in 1998, they are creating this software for many years now.

This is created by people. The developers need mouths to feed, if they create everything for free how can they earn money with it, sponsors? dont let me laugh.. Money doenst grow on tree's, respect that!

So go out and buy stuff just because someone made it and they have kids to feed? Even if it's crap? Even if they've been making it for years? Even if they are people? You make no sense. Buy stuff if it's GOOD, sure, but crap...no way.
Toonen1988 May 1, 2013 @ 11:03am 
Why doenst made no sense? All those whining about, this software must be free, why buying. And if they bought it, its just like, its a wast, dont buy this crap.

And you telling me that i doenst make no sense? There is an free version to try before buying it, if they doenst understand what an benchmark is, that isnt really my problem but i have a problem with the unnecessary whining about, this is crap, this should be free and many more whining about people who doenst actually know what an benchmark is all about.

Sure, i respect everyone opninion, but i dont respect opninion from guys who doenst know what an benchmark really is.

And you telling me that i doenst make no sense?

He also doesnt say why this is crap or why this is an stupid deal? I call it unnecessary whining.......
Last edited by Toonen1988; May 1, 2013 @ 11:13am
Originally posted by brooklynsdee:
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.
Let me be VERY clear. If you don't know what a general benchmark is for then why the hell did you buy it? Let me tell you what this is for. Heavy dudy overclockers need to test and see if their system is stable. Often when you overclock a computer you have to find the stability threshhold. When I first overclocked my cards I ran so many 3Dmark tests to find out what clock rates are stable. All cards have different thresholds so you can't just look it up online. Thanks to 3Dmark and other tools like it I got my i7 2600K overclocked to 5.2ghz stable. I also got my 800mhz 560TI GPU overclocked to 1GHZ stable.
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Bob the Boomer May 1, 2013 @ 11:17am 
People will also jsut cheat in the benchmark results - and you never see the pointless score system modified to remove the knowen BS scores ppl have submitted. All because they paid for the app they can do what they want i guess and well removing their scores would make the customers unhappy (but would give the scores more credibility and gain trust and more customers)

Anyways - personally i use alternative and verified benchmark apps that validate the users scores by cetian methods - and or remove obvious BS ones without worry.

As for using it to test for overclocking - there is a tonne of tools for that, sad ppl don't educate themself but yeh lemmings and e peni types are a dime a dozen, see below for proof.

Originally posted by PR0XIDIAN ಠ_ಠ:
Originally posted by brooklynsdee:
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.
Thanks to 3Dmark and other tools like it I got my i7 2600K overclocked to 5.2ghz stable. I also got my 800mhz 560TI GPU overclocked to 1GHZ stable.
Last edited by Bob the Boomer; May 1, 2013 @ 11:18am
Necromancin May 1, 2013 @ 12:10pm 
OMG.....

Originally posted by brooklynsdee:
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.

Sooo many bums complain about ♥♥♥♥, everywhere today... I buy cards just to bench / volt mod and same with mobos.

Originally posted by ☮ ραтяισт ☮:
Originally posted by brooklynsdee:
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.

Stupid deal for those who use crappy computers and dont have money to buy better. Luckily I have money, and 12€ is nothing. Haha!

Move out from a developing country, and maybe you can buy something usefull also.

+1
UL_Jarnis  [developer] May 1, 2013 @ 12:26pm 
Originally posted by Dir DF0:~ ~:
People will also jsut cheat in the benchmark results - and you never see the pointless score system modified to remove the knowen BS scores ppl have submitted.

We investigate and remove bogus scores from 3DMark Hall of Fame. Just report them through our support pages or send email to info [at] futuremark.com with link to the result in question on 3dmark.com and description why it is bogus (if it isn't blindingly obvious). Tho do note that if the result page already says that the score is not valid then it won't appear on the toplists and doesn't really qualify for removal. You can filter out invalid results in result search on 3DMark.com and they are not used as data on things like Futuremark Hardware Channel.

3DMark also includes built-in checks to eliminate some obvious ways to cheat with the scores but beyond that the only practical way is post-submit analysis online (we don't want to resort to heavy-handed anti-cheating methods like punkbuster just for the sake of benchmark scores...)
Last edited by UL_Jarnis; May 1, 2013 @ 12:28pm
Originally posted by NeCrOmAnCiN:
OMG.....

Originally posted by brooklynsdee:
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.

Sooo many bums complain about ♥♥♥♥, everywhere today... I buy cards just to bench / volt mod and same with mobos.

Originally posted by ☮ ραтяισт ☮:

Stupid deal for those who use crappy computers and dont have money to buy better. Luckily I have money, and 12€ is nothing. Haha!

Move out from a developing country, and maybe you can buy something usefull also.

+1

A fellow benchmarker who also has the ROG logo?! :D
Narco Reus May 1, 2013 @ 12:32pm 
Originally posted by ☮ ραтяισт ☮:
Originally posted by brooklynsdee:
stupid deal. do yourself a favor, don't waste your money on this garbage.

Stupid deal for those who use crappy computers and dont have money to buy better. Luckily I have money, and 12€ is nothing. Haha!

Move out from a developing country, and maybe you can buy something usefull also.

Move out of America, and you might learn how to spell.
Originally posted by CM Cookz:
Move out of America, and you might learn how to spell.
Haha, I am not from USA. Only insult british people can come up with is "learn how to spell" ... You should instead learn other languages and learn how to use punctuation marks. Checked your posts, and there are far too many mistakes. Is that really your native language?

Jag är inte från USA
Io non sono da Stati Uniti d'America
Je ne suis pas des Etats-Unis
En ole kotoisin Yhdysvalloista.

Last edited by Greenscreen; May 1, 2013 @ 1:13pm
CrispyNoodle May 1, 2013 @ 1:21pm 
A lot of hate on here, why?

This is a tool, if people want to use it they will. For me and probably a lot of people here it's pretty useless. For hardware testers and the like I should imagine it's very useful.

An entire thread of name calling is rather unnecessary.
HalfFroMan May 1, 2013 @ 1:44pm 
Originally posted by ☠ neo:
Most big games come with their own benchmarking tool, I'd suggest using that. But in the end of the day it's best to play yourself and record that. Even then, FPS is not what you really want in the end of the day. That's an old and failed way of measuring your experience.

You want, in the end of the day, for your experience to be smooth. Not just a high FPS counter.

@Toonen: I would not even use the free version. This is a synthetic benchmark. It does not reflect the performance of ANY game out there. Why? Because every engine is different. And it will produce a different result on different hardware.

The bottom line is: it's not enough to benchmark using a tool that will only show you FPS for a pre created scene in ONE engine.

IN THE END OF THE DAY
Narco Reus May 1, 2013 @ 5:20pm 
Originally posted by ;828937546144679380:
Originally posted by CM Cookz:
Move out of America, and you might learn how to spell.
Haha, I am not from USA. Only insult british people can come up with is "learn how to spell" ... You should instead learn other languages and learn how to use punctuation marks. Checked your posts, and there are far too many mistakes. Is that really your native language?

Jag är inte från USA
Io non sono da Stati Uniti d'America
Je ne suis pas des Etats-Unis
En ole kotoisin Yhdysvalloista.

Kindly point out my mistakes, and I'll get back to you as soon as possible.

But please do so with correct sentence structure.
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