3DMark
Dellicious 2015 年 1 月 2 日 上午 7:16
2600k and GTX 980
Guys I have a i7 2600k @ 4.4GHz and I have just bought a 980 GTX

How much will the CPU be a bottleneck, minor, moderate or major.
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Dellicious 2015 年 6 月 16 日 上午 2:32 
引用自 FM_Jarnis
3DMark Fire Strike would show a bigger difference in graphics performance because it runs at a higher resolution and has far heavier graphics load. 3DMark 11 runs only at 720p (kinda low for modern hardware), so it is not a huge shocker that GTX 980 shows little gains vs. GTX 780 Ti - most of the additional performance of GTX 980 comes up only at higher resolutions and under more complex shader loads.

In short, GTX 980 is "too fast" for 3DMark 11 Performance Preset. We do not release new tests "just for fun" (or "just to get more money") - tests become obsolete as hardware gets faster and faster. Even 3DMark Fire Strike is already bit lightweight for monster 3-4 card multi-GPU systems (for those we have Fire Strike Extreme and Ultra variants)

Sure, we could do a test that runs at 0.1 fps on today's hardware and it would probably be a good graphics test for 10 years, but it would look really really crappy on today's systems :)

Cool info, thanks for that.

Anyway my 2600K and 980 are doing fine, can play most games in 1440p! I think I will finally upgrade the 2600K next year when Intel Skylake is out.
最后由 Dellicious 编辑于; 2015 年 6 月 16 日 上午 2:32
DM 2015 年 6 月 16 日 上午 4:54 
引用自 Dellicious
Guys I have a i7 2600k @ 4.4GHz and I have just bought a 980 GTX

How much will the CPU be a bottleneck, minor, moderate or major.

I'm late to the party I know, but the PC I just replaced 2 weeks ago was an i5 2500k clocked to 4.4 and a superclocked EVGA 980, and I had zero bottlenecks from the CPU gaming at either 1440p on trying out 4k, even with CPU heavy games like WoW. My GPU could reliably get to 99% utilisation unless a game was bugged.
最后由 DM 编辑于; 2015 年 6 月 16 日 上午 4:56
ChattyAlarm8263 2015 年 6 月 29 日 下午 1:53 
Might as well ad mine.

My 780 SC
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/4624824

And my 980Ti SC
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5172038

Will be upgrading my 2600K next year to probably Skylake E or what ever the X99 follow up is.
MancSoulja 2015 年 7 月 1 日 上午 1:39 
Guess I'll add my 980TI and 2600K too then.. :tgrin:

http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5202398
UnReal-4-Life 2015 年 7 月 1 日 上午 3:15 
引用自 David20Player
Here are my 3DMark results with a stock GTX 980 and a stock Intel i7 5930K processor.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7356309?
wow I beat every one of those scores with a 2600k and 760s.
My 6GB 780 SC does much better too but thats unfair its so much more powerful then the 980.
I think that is why the discontinued the 700s or the 690s what a gimmic.
Please dont take any of this the wroung way . I thank you for posting that . you can see my scores in the stats they are all there if you wanna see or hit me up i show you.

The main thing here is kudos for the 2600K club!! We still rock!
最后由 UnReal-4-Life 编辑于; 2015 年 7 月 1 日 上午 3:33
TG SHINODA 2015 年 7 月 1 日 上午 10:01 
780 sc so much more powerful than 980 HaHa, i'll have some of what you've been smoking.
DM 2015 年 7 月 1 日 下午 4:14 
Yeah, I was shocked that all those benchmarks showing the 780 beating the 980, no wait, wrong dream...

Most benchmarks showed the 980 beating the 780 by about 10% in real gaming.
ChattyAlarm8263 2015 年 7 月 2 日 上午 9:31 
If my 780 sc performed like a 980 i wouldnt have upgraded.
UnReal-4-Life 2015 年 7 月 3 日 上午 1:07 
引用自 Dellicious
Guys I have a i7 2600k @ 4.4GHz and I have just bought a 980 GTX

How much will the CPU be a bottleneck, minor, moderate or major.
http://www.3dmark.com/fs/5185097
UnReal-4-Life 2015 年 7 月 3 日 上午 1:30 
引用自 Foulplay
Yeah, I was shocked that all those benchmarks showing the 780 beating the 980, no wait, wrong dream...

Most benchmarks showed the 980 beating the 780 by about 10% in real gaming.
I think you dont understand what we are saying here. I bet you dont see any real difference or reson to upgrade even thow you wont say it your games and visuals have not changed for the better switching to 980s. I use to beat 780ti and titans with just 2 760s half the cost of of just one of them. now the cost is down its better . But it takes two 980s to beat 2way 760s and 3way 760s still 700 cheaper to use 3way 760s. Dont get me wrong I will get a 980 soon but not as a replacement but for an addition I wont throw the 700s under the buss.
TG SHINODA 2015 年 7 月 3 日 上午 1:55 
really 2 980's to beat 3 760's lol, here's my single 980 score and you'll see it beats your 3 760's.

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/7603015?
DM 2015 年 7 月 3 日 上午 2:37 
引用自 UnReal-4-Life
引用自 Foulplay
Yeah, I was shocked that all those benchmarks showing the 780 beating the 980, no wait, wrong dream...

Most benchmarks showed the 980 beating the 780 by about 10% in real gaming.
I think you dont understand what we are saying here. I bet you dont see any real difference or reson to upgrade even thow you wont say it your games and visuals have not changed for the better switching to 980s. I use to beat 780ti and titans with just 2 760s half the cost of of just one of them. now the cost is down its better . But it takes two 980s to beat 2way 760s and 3way 760s still 700 cheaper to use 3way 760s. Dont get me wrong I will get a 980 soon but not as a replacement but for an addition I wont throw the 700s under the buss.

I understand what you mean, but for me my visuals did improve, because I upgraded to use higher resolutions or drasticly increase framerates, or enable nvidia 3D Vision in my games.

For 4 years I used to game on my Samsung 52" LCD TV, then I decided I wanted to try 3D so I got a 27" 1080 3D monitor and GTX 580, which at the time was just about the top card. Framerates in 3D were OK, but you pretty much need SLI to get the best performance for stereo 3D because you have to render the game twice.

After 12 months I upgraded to SLI 670 which were the sweet spot for value for money and performance. My games all ran much faster using that hardware than when I was using single 580 and I could jack up all the quality settings, and in 2D I could run a lot of games much closer to 120fps which feels a lot more responsive than 60hz.

Then I got the ROG SWIFT 1440p 3D monitor so got the GTX 980 to play at 1440p and 3D, but I also wanted a big single card for VR as SLI adds latency when using the Oculus DK2. I had spent a few weeks reading up on the 780 and made up my mind to buy the Asus ROG version and was bitterly disapointed that they all went out of stock the day I got paid and could afford it, but 2 days later the 980 was released and I got an EVGA 980 SC edition for the same price as the standard edition.

Then a month ago I got a 4k monitor so I built a SLI Titan X PC and donated my old PC to a relative. This all sounds like I have a lot of money to throw around, but the only reason I built a new PC with SLI Titan X was because I sold my property and made a tidy proffit, and decided that for once I would build the best PC I could within reason. I could have afforded 4 way SLI and an Intel Extreme CPU and 3x 4k monitors in surround even, but that kind of money would have just made me sick and been a total waste.

Pretty much all my upgrades are because of the hardware requirements for increases in resolution or gaming in stereo 3D, rather than because I saw pretty numbers and needed to have them.

I understand you can push a lower card harder and beat "superior" cards and save a lot of cash by doing so, but overall most people with a 980 are going to get better performance than most people with a 780, specially in VRAM intensive games, and for me one of the biggest advantages of getting the 980 was the increased VRAM.

As for the VRAM on Titan X, I think its overblown. 4k gaming pushes most games to 3/4GB VRAM, extreme cases like Shadow of Mordor use about 7gb. By the time anyone actually *needs* a 12gb card the Titan X will be a distant memory.
最后由 DM 编辑于; 2015 年 7 月 3 日 上午 2:43
Dellicious 2015 年 7 月 3 日 上午 7:46 
This talk of 760's and 980's..don't see the point, this is a 1080p benchmark right, It's not really suprising 3x 760's can hang with a single stock 980. Now compare at 1440p which is a more native resolution for a 980 and that 2GB VRAM will hold 'em back.

It's not as simple as one thing "beats" another thing, there are tons of variables to consider.
chrcoluk 2015 年 7 月 4 日 下午 3:27 
I dont like how people think cards are to be used with specific resolutions.

e.g. I dont like how the 960 was marketed as a 1080p card, does that mean my 970 used for 1050p is wrong? of course not, in fact many games force me to turn down settings on my 970 at 1050p and also many games now will use more than 2 gig vram at 1050p. (obviously also 1080p).

Maxwell has optimisations the most famous probably been its memory compression, which is why the performance is more than people expected.
DM 2015 年 7 月 5 日 上午 4:50 
cards have maximum performance at certain resolutions and graphics settings, which is the whole reason we have a range of perfming cards in the first place, and in the reviews of most of the newer top range cards you will see almost every single one say "if you are gaming at 1080p this card is overkill"

Almost every Titan X review mentions 1440 and 4k purely because its a ridiculous card to use on a single 1080p monitor.

You don't have to like it, but its part of the PC landscape, specially now 1440p is becoming more mainstream, 4k is becoming a lot more affordable, and DSR in the nvidia drivers makes it even easier for people to downscale games regardless of the native res of their monitors.
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