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Dave3d Jul 14, 2016 @ 11:29pm
Fire Strike Ultra Stress test wont finish?
I dont know if its because Steam is running in the background (it HAS to be running in order to use 3dmark, sigh), or because I am using GPU-Z to log heat, power used, etc etc etc, or because I have Fences installed, or what.
But, I cant get over 92.7% frame rate stability. And 97% is needed to pass?

My specs:
Asus X99 mobo
Intel 5930k cpu
Titan X 12gb
16gb memory
M.2 os card
Windows 8.1 (modified, classic start menu, windows fences, etc)
Latest nvidia drivers out today, 368.81
3dMark Advanced
2560x1440 G-Sync 144hz monitor

Also, another question:
I cant find 3dmark anywhere in my library anymore? I have to go to store page to launch it.
:(
Ahhh, I see it under Library > Software. :)

Edit 2:
I ran the regular Fire Strike gaming pc test, and it passed, but when I wenty to compare to other users, it shows them but says:
TIME MEASUREMENT INCONSISTENCIES DETECTED DURING BENCHMARK RUN. THIS RESULT IS NOT ELIGIBLE FOR HALL OF FAME OR OVERCLOCKING CONTESTS. (sorry, it was all in caps, so I showed it that way).
What does this mean?
Sigh.
I dont understand this program, it is buggy as all get out.
Last edited by Dave3d; Jul 14, 2016 @ 11:51pm
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UL_Jarnis  [developer] Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:40am 
The "inconsistencies detected" means that something is affecting system clocks on your system. In other words, your windows clock and your motherboard HPET clock do not agree with each other as to how long the test took.

In Windows 8 and Windows 10 this can happen if you adjust any overclocking settings after boot in Windows.

92.7% framerate stability in stress test means that there is 7.3% difference between the fastest completed run and slowest completed run across 20 runs. In other words, your system is thermal throttling during the stress test.
UL_Jarnis  [developer] Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:41am 
Also note that we recommend disabling gsync when benchmarking. You *can* benchmark with it enabled, but it can slightly degrade the score.
Dave3d Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:47am 
Originally posted by FM_Jarnis:
The "inconsistencies detected" means that something is affecting system clocks on your system. In other words, your windows clock and your motherboard HPET clock do not agree with each other as to how long the test took.

In Windows 8 and Windows 10 this can happen if you adjust any overclocking settings after boot in Windows.

92.7% framerate stability in stress test means that there is 7.3% difference between the fastest completed run and slowest completed run across 20 runs. In other words, your system is thermal throttling during the stress test.

I do have my system to boot to windows then oc, via asus uefi bios.

Is the 'Thermal Throttling' the GPU ?
Or is it the CPU ?
Is there a way to tell the difference?
Since its a gpu test, would it be the gpu doing the throttling?
My gpu gets to 82c, and the limit is 91c, so thjinking it might be my Titan X throttling, which is bad, as its not supposed to yet.
:(
Also, evga said that is too hot. I told them it was your ultra test, havent heard back from them yet.

Thanks!
Last edited by Dave3d; Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:50am
UL_Jarnis  [developer] Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:50am 
GPU. The stress test is purely a GPU Stress test.

Regarding OC, first try disabling all OCs. If that causes the inconsistencies message go away, then this was the cause. Then I recommend trying the OC via BIOS, so the overclock is set before you boot Windows.

This is a Win 8 / 10 limitation. Windows 7 did not have this. Basically any result done with OCing after boot to Windows is bogus because your Windows clock is no longer accurate.
Last edited by UL_Jarnis; Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:51am
Dave3d Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:51am 
Originally posted by FM_Jarnis:
GPU. The stress test is purely a GPU Stress test.

OK
Like I said, I posted all of the results of the test, using gpu-z, and evga said the test was making the card too hot.
:(

But, I have also noticed that since the 1080/1070 series has come out, the nvidia drivers have been wreaking havok on ALL video cards.
Some full screen detection not happening, fans not working, and cards not ramping up like they should, via the new 'power management' system of the 10000 series, seems to be trying to be used by older cards also, to their detrement.
Last edited by Dave3d; Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:53am
UL_Jarnis  [developer] Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:52am 
So maybe try improving the ventilation of the case?
Dave3d Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:55am 
Ventilation is awesome.
And, the cpu is water cooled.
I just installed the EVGA Precision X software to run the GPU fan at 100%

OC is ONLY on the cpu, not the GPU.
GPU is stock.
Last edited by Dave3d; Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:56am
UL_Jarnis  [developer] Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:56am 
Yes, and only CPU OC affects the timer issue, if you do the OC after Windows has booted up.
Dave3d Jul 15, 2016 @ 12:58am 
Well, I cant get the oc to stay in the bios only.
It boots at stock 3.7, then applies oc after booting into windows.
There is nothing I can do about it.
Its not a ROG board, and has very basic oc'ing.
:(

I guess I would have to disable the oc altogether.
:(
UL_Jarnis  [developer] Jul 15, 2016 @ 1:00am 
All X99 motherboards can definitely be overclocked from BIOS.

And if you do it from Windows, all software you are running have a skewed Windows clock.

Recommend reading this:

http://www.extremetech.com/computing/164209-windows-8-banned-by-worlds-top-benchmarking-and-overclocking-site
Dave3d Jul 15, 2016 @ 1:15am 
I didnt do it from windows. The Asus X99 Sabertooth does not allow OC from software in windows (TUF series does monitoring only, ROG series lets you oc, in windows) .
But, the way it works, it throttles during boot, then applies after boot.
I dont know how or why, but it does.

Anyway, the PrecisionX software with fan at 100% allowed it to get to 80%, 98% stability, and a valid result.
I 'think' I got 1st?
It shows a trophy and the number 1 next to it?

Dave3d on there also, like here.
:)

This is only my 2nd upload to 3dmark site, last one I think was GTX580, so I am not very well versed in the software at all, nor in oc'ing. Now, back in the 8800's and core 2 duo's, well, I did some oc'ing then.
:)

Just happy I got it working.
Now, tomorrow, to tear apart the Titan and re-apply thermal paste, as evga suggested before rma'ing it.
:(

Haha.
Nope.
Not first place.
Everyone with sli and tri-sli in top spots.
I am in last 6 places, lol.
BUT, single card, so not bad.
Last edited by Dave3d; Jul 15, 2016 @ 1:29am
76561198872715279 Nov 28, 2018 @ 2:34pm 
I am running...

Windows 10
i7-8700
2x GTX 1080 Ti
32 ram
samsung 970 ssd
asus hero x mobo

My system is OC'd to max or very close to yet I too only get 93.7% on the exact same stress test. This can't be possible can it?
UL_Jarnis  [developer] Nov 29, 2018 @ 6:30am 
Easily. Your GPU(s) are throttling under load. The stress test score means the lowest stress test round is 93.7% of the speed of the fastest. Or in other words, during the test, you lose about 6% of the performance to thermal throttling. Improve cooling.

The OC is otherwise stable since it passes without crashing, but it cannot run as fast as you set it to run due to either lack of power or lack of cooling. This is normal with modern GPUs - they all adjust clocks depending on thermals and power delivery.
Last edited by UL_Jarnis; Nov 29, 2018 @ 6:32am
hardwiredsin Nov 29, 2018 @ 3:15pm 
Originally posted by testerxxx:
I am running...

Windows 10
i7-8700
2x GTX 1080 Ti
32 ram
samsung 970 ssd
asus hero x mobo

My system is OC'd to max or very close to yet I too only get 93.7% on the exact same stress test. This can't be possible can it?

It's because of throttling, I get around 96% on the Firestrike Stress test with my VEGA 64 because of heat throttling too. You can try improving your case airflow or lowering any gpu clocks some.
Dave3d Nov 29, 2018 @ 4:31pm 
LOL.
I LOVE how everyone immediately says 'heat throttling'.
My system I posted about was in a CM HAF-X case, with upgraded fans custom tailored and positioned , with water cooling AND the system right where the A/C comes in through the window, but its a coolling issue, lol.

@Testerxxx
Do you by chance have an EVGA video card? Or power supply?
I changed both to non-evga, and the system aced the test.
BUT, they may have a point, if the video card itself is throttling because it is getting too hot.
In order to pass the test (6 bad evga titan X maxwells later), I had to:
1. Use msi afterburner to put the gpu fan @ 100%
2. Put heatsinks on the memory on the back of the gpu memory modules.
3. Put a dedicated fan to blow over the top of the video card heatsinks I put on.
4. Removed ALL non-essential devices, drivers, etc (I had a usb x4 card, a creative sound card, and a usb dvd drive).
5. Put the computer in front of my A/C unit so that it was blowing into the front of the case.
6. Disabled any periferal software that wasnt needed (antivirus ONLY for the test, and I used MS's av instead, Fences, Steam Overlay, Zune software, Winamp, etc etc etc).

Only then was I able to pass, and then JUST barely passed.
Oh, and I had to do the 1st through 3, plus 5, JUST to play ANY game made in the last 10 years.
It was at first a defective video card (6 times), and then a power supply. Both were made by EVGA. Seems evga isnt as good as they used to be, and are cutting a LOT of corners on their video cards, even the OC'ed ones with supposedly the top gpu chips in them (and they just may be the top chips, but if you put in sub-par boards and electronics, followed by inadequate cooling, then it still is not a good card). Too bad. It used to be that I had at least 2 evga made electronics in every one of my systems, but now I wont even use 1. :(

I need to test my new system, with a 9700k and a 2x 2080 video cards (made by
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