Choros.jar malware infected?

[Joni-Wan]

I just tried starting the 3DMark Demo and my antivirus software (Emsisoft) gave me a warning of unusual behavior. The questionable file is choros.jar. Is that a false positive?

[UL_Jarnis]

Yes it is a false positive. Perhaps you should consider using a better antivirus.

[Ogami]

Honestly, just use Windows Defender. Its nowadays better then all the free antivirus programs and on par with nearly all paid ones.
There is really no reason to get anything else.
Windows Defender + common sense and i did not get a virus in year.

[Joni-Wan]

Originally posted by UL_Jarnis:

Yes it is a false positive. Perhaps you should consider using a better antivirus.

To be honest, I expected a more serious-minded response. Like "we get in touch with Emsisoft to solve the issue" or something. I dont want to offend anyone, but i hope you understand that just saying "it is a false positive" as dev isn't that trustworthy.

[Joni-Wan]

Originally posted by Ogami:

Honestly, just use Windows Defender. Its nowadays better then all the free antivirus programs and on par with nearly all paid ones.
There is really no reason to get anything else.
Windows Defender + common sense and i did not get a virus in year.

And I will. But i am migrating from Win7 to Win10 at the moment and want to run comparing benchmarks. Once I run Win10, I will most likely rely on WD alone.

[UL_Jarnis]

The baseline assumption should be that if commercial software from a well-known publisher that is published on Steam triggers a warning from your antivirus, it is a false positive.

Apologies for not being serious enough in the first response, but I can assure you that we do not upload viruses or malware to Steam for distribution.

[Joni-Wan]

I uploaded the find to Emsisoft and after the last updates it does not give a false positive anymore.

Originally posted by UL_Jarnis:

The baseline assumption should be that if commercial software from a well-known publisher that is published on Steam triggers a warning from your antivirus, it is a false positive.

I generally agree to this, but since I cannot know e.g. what parts might be outsourced to subcontractors etc., I think its best to always be aware.
Anyway, problem solved.

[)V(aster Z]

Great anti-virus btw, been with it for years, great experience. Would never replace it with something like Windows Defender lol
It really amazes me such people... like the ones saying "it's better without antivirus"

[SimpleMinded]

i use Windows Defender & i look at all the Dark sites available & i never have any problems

[Huperspace]

Originally posted by Toxic Joypad:

i use Windows Defender & i look at all the Dark sites available & i never have any problems

may be true with Add Blocker plugins but without you will be spamed with Virus warnings.

[a740g]

Never used anything other than Windows Defender / Security since 2010. Still a happy camper.

[)V(aster Z]

I'm sorry guys. I actually set-up computers for clients only with Windows Defender. It is not bad, but it really depends on your usage. I tell them, use only for work, avoid or totally don't use for facebook (it's a working PC) and from all computers so far I didn't have a client with a virus-problem. Only one that decided to install cracked diablo 4... on his working pc... lol
However, if you go to all kind of websites, or for example like to test software that has no trial before buying it, for sure it's not enough. It all depends on a person's usage.
For general use - defender got way better compared to how it was in the past. And it works and gives an overall protection - on the condition that you have automatic windows updates (which is something I never have) or you set it up manually to update.
For usage involving more risky and dodgy websites, torrents, etc... than highly recommend extra-protection.

[TS2]

Originally posted by )V(aster Z:

I'm sorry guys. I actually set-up computers for clients only with Windows Defender. It is not bad, but it really depends on your usage. I tell them, use only for work, avoid or totally don't use for facebook (it's a working PC) and from all computers so far I didn't have a client with a virus-problem. Only one that decided to install cracked diablo 4... on his working pc... lol
However, if you go to all kind of websites, or for example like to test software that has no trial before buying it, for sure it's not enough. It all depends on a person's usage.
For general use - defender got way better compared to how it was in the past. And it works and gives an overall protection - on the condition that you have automatic windows updates (which is something I never have) or you set it up manually to update.
For usage involving more risky and dodgy websites, torrents, etc... than highly recommend extra-protection.

If you all are that concerned about heuristics, from what I am aware, BitDefender and Malwarebytes will generally detect more than Windows 10 Defender and any other implementation, even in the respective free versions. Those are advised if Windows Defender is simply not enough.

[)V(aster Z]

Originally posted by TS2:

Originally posted by )V(aster Z:

I'm sorry guys. I actually set-up computers for clients only with Windows Defender. It is not bad, but it really depends on your usage. I tell them, use only for work, avoid or totally don't use for facebook (it's a working PC) and from all computers so far I didn't have a client with a virus-problem. Only one that decided to install cracked diablo 4... on his working pc... lol
However, if you go to all kind of websites, or for example like to test software that has no trial before buying it, for sure it's not enough. It all depends on a person's usage.
For general use - defender got way better compared to how it was in the past. And it works and gives an overall protection - on the condition that you have automatic windows updates (which is something I never have) or you set it up manually to update.
For usage involving more risky and dodgy websites, torrents, etc... than highly recommend extra-protection.

If you all are that concerned about heuristics, from what I am aware, BitDefender and Malwarebytes will generally detect more than Windows 10 Defender and any other implementation, even in the respective free versions. Those are advised if Windows Defender is simply not enough.

Well coincidentally you mention that. I use Emsisoft Anti-Malware, which uses BitDefender definitions + their own heuristics and at the same time Malwarebytes. Those are my protections (yes 2 as crazy as it sounds) but of coourse if I wanna do something more power-hungry like video-editing, etc.. I just stop malwarebytes for that moment. + occasionally put adwcleaner to see if I got some new PUP or something like that.
My main cleaners of an easy-level infection are malwarebytes + hitman pro. If it's advanced infection, a whole folder full with tools....
Otherwise for my clients, using computer for work (3d modelling and milling) + occasional email. windows defender seems to have been enough of a protection for them so far. The only issue I struggled for some time was windows itself with those automatic updates and retarded behavior of "self-management" and self-corruption... luckily there's people out there online, who gave brilliant solutions for this hell of an os.....
Anyways, TS2 respect from me for the suggested softwares

[TS2]

Originally posted by )V(aster Z:

Originally posted by TS2:

If you all are that concerned about heuristics, from what I am aware, BitDefender and Malwarebytes will generally detect more than Windows 10 Defender and any other implementation, even in the respective free versions. Those are advised if Windows Defender is simply not enough.

Well coincidentally you mention that. I use Emsisoft Anti-Malware, which uses BitDefender definitions + their own heuristics and at the same time Malwarebytes. Those are my protections (yes 2 as crazy as it sounds) but of coourse if I wanna do something more power-hungry like video-editing, etc.. I just stop malwarebytes for that moment. + occasionally put adwcleaner to see if I got some new PUP or something like that.
My main cleaners of an easy-level infection are malwarebytes + hitman pro. If it's advanced infection, a whole folder full with tools....
Otherwise for my clients, using computer for work (3d modelling and milling) + occasional email. windows defender seems to have been enough of a protection for them so far. The only issue I struggled for some time was windows itself with those automatic updates and retarded behavior of "self-management" and self-corruption... luckily there's people out there online, who gave brilliant solutions for this hell of an os.....
Anyways, TS2 respect from me for the suggested softwares :woodlehappy:

Ah, yes, the self-corruption. Those typically occur after Feature Updates to Windows 10.

At least the sfc /scannow and DISM /Online /Cleanup-image /Restorehealth commands exist to repair and stabilize the system afterwards.

[)V(aster Z]

Exactly bro! Those 2 commands saved mine and so many colleagues-pcs.. + the old-school restore points I always make and occasional having to "reset this PC" thing. And on the good side, installing Windows 10 on a modern SSD is like a breeze. On slow sata-cable ssd or hdd... restarting and updates can be quite an experience, worthy of peace and meditation xDd or simply said- taking hours.