Seriously, grenades need a rework.

[Mistfox]

I just restarted a game and was taking over a light scout with no problems until the door breaching phase. Opened the door, saw an enemy (Caesan), switched to flash grenade, tossed it, clear lane, 40% chance to hit. Hits door frame that was not indicated, grenade went off right in that guy's face. Fine, luckily I got the other wing of my door breaching team. Tosses flash grenade, same thing, went off in the guy's face. No red line, no blockage nothing, just "BOOM!" in his face. Twice.

Of course next turn the alien butchered them all but wasn't "obstacles" right next to the soldier not supposed to count? Not to mention tossing a grenade should not have it explode right in your face with no obstacles?

[pauloandrade224]

Thats just like poor Rng they have a chance to throw like shots do and they did it on your face twice.

Also next time try to have an object near the enemy highlighted as the blocking object the object block mechanism only works there! So if they are near walls actually aim at the wall where they are so u will 100% hit that spot. It works unless u have another 100% chance blocker in the path ur aiming ofc.

Thats how i breach light ufo Rocket the door or shoot it til its destroyed then Light them. up and Laugh as they die.

Grenade on the door also great for those they are usually near the door on light scout ufo.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by pauloandrade224:

Thats just like poor Rng they have a chance to throw like shots do and they did it on your face twice.

Also next time try to have an object near the enemy highlighted as the blocking object the object block mechanism only works there! So if they are near walls actually aim at the wall where they are so u will 100% hit that spot. It works unless u have another 100% chance blocker in the path ur aiming ofc.

Thats how i breach light ufo Rocket the door or shoot it til its destroyed then Light them. up and Laugh as they die.

Grenade on the door also great for those they are usually near the door on light scout ufo.

I'm actually fine with Light UFOs, they are supposed to be the easiest to breach if everything goes as planned. I'm just very pissed off at very wild unreliable grenades that somehow hit your own people. Anything with an AOE might need a close range accuracy boost to prevent it from blowing your whole team to bits. Even something as simple as tossing smoke in the middle of your formation can somehow end up with it going way to one side, leaving half the formation exposed. Grenades cost too much TU to throw for them to be so unreliable, the person tossing the grenade relies on having the grenade work EXACTLY as planned or he is dead, missing the alien or worse, flash banging himself is a death sentence at grenade ranges. Bonus facepalm if it was an explosive grenade and he threw it at his own feet.

[mergele]

With the Community version I think it is mostly ok, but I agree that base game game is just way to unreliable to ever invest that massive TU into anything so close range.

[pipo.p]

Once you get decent accuracy, and don't try to throw it at max range.

[Mistfox]

Originally posted by pipo.p:

Once you get decent accuracy, and don't try to throw it at max range.

With grenades, max range is already pathetically short, which is why you get things like it dropping at your guy's feet. The deviation of the flight path is incredible, like 45 degrees to one side. This means that for something like the Landing Ship, even if you hold both teleporters to the bridge, your grenade can fly into the other room if you were trying to throw it down the corridor. It's also a bit bugged that flubbed grenade tosses can go through walls. Yes, it does. You know how a Landing Ship has a narrow corridor to the bridge? If you threw a grenade to the blind spot at the close corners (to hit any alien hiding there), a missed throw actually phases through the wall and lands inside the teleporter room.