Are all the Ys's ganes connected and in order ?

[ZugzwangGroo]

Hello all, I was just wondering if all all the games are in sequence? Thanks for any help !

[Ikagura]

Yes, the Ys series is about the adventure of Adol Christin all around the (known) world but the series isn't really in the chronological order.

It's a bit tricky to understand but some games using the same engine and gameplay aren't sequels to each others.

Ys I&II are two parts of the same story but then there's Oath in Felghana (the remake of Ys III wanderer from Ys which is chronologically between IV and V and it reuses the same engine and gameplay as Ys VI with some upgrades).

To be simple in the chronological timeline of the series there's that order:

Origin -> I&II -> Celceta -> Felghana -> Kefin (never released in the west and never got any remake) -> Lacrimosa -> Napishtim -> Seven -> Monstrum

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

They're connected in that they take place in the same setting, but they're not connected in the sense that playing games before is necessary to understand later games.

Ys I & II are connected directly by story. The rest can be played in basically any order, as far as story is concerned.

[Mondae Sundae]

With the exceptions of Ys I, Ys II and Ys Origin, all of the other games are self-contained.

The connections between games are more like Easter eggs. There is no significant relevance to the game being played. There is a fairly substantial lore built into the various Ys games, but learning about this is completely optional -- has no impact on understanding the game being played.

In regards to Felghana and Celceta...


Oath in Felghana:
This is a remake of Ys III.

It's a near 1-to-1 retelling of the original Ys III story, but more refined and polished. Since it's basically 1-to-1 with the original Ys III story, it effectively acts as a drop-in replacement of the original.


Memories of Celceta:
This is a re-imagining of Ys IV.

However, this is NOT a 1-to-1 retelling of the original Ys IV games. In fact, there are 3 distinct versions of Ys IV. All 3 versions have vastly different stories and plot compared to each other. They all take place in the same locations and have somewhat similar events, but the details....

The three versions of Ys IV:
- Memories of Celceta
- Ys IV: Dawn of Ys
- Ys IV: Mask of the Sun

Celceta is the only version of Ys IV made by Falcom, so it is the "canon" version of Ys IV. This doesn't mean Celceta is the best version of Ys IV, but that's a bit of a discussion on it's own.


With these details in mind, this is what the games look like in chronological and numerical orders:


Chronological Order:
- Ys: Origin
- Ys I
- Ys II
- Ys (IV): Memories of Celceta
- Ys (III): Oath in Felghana
- Ys V: Kefin, Lost Kingdom of Sand
- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
- Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim
- Ys Seven
- Ys IX: Monstrum Nox


Numerical Order:
- Ys: Origin
- Ys I
- Ys II
- Ys (III): Oath in Felghana
- Ys (IV): Memories of Celceta
- Ys V: Kefin, Lost Kingdom of Sand
- Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim
- Ys Seven
- Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana
- Ys IX: Monstrum Nox


As far as I am aware, most recommendations for play order are NOT chronological or numerical orders. The only thing that is universally consistent is "play Ys I and Ys II together and in that order". Most (not all) recommend to play Ys I and II before any other game in the series (or skip these for those that don't enjoy the bump-combat system).

This said, recommended order to play the games is a lengthy discussion all of its own.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

If you don't have any specific preferences, you can always go in release order, and play just the canon Ys games. So (if I recall correctly) that basically means starting with Ys VI, then Ys Oath, then Ys Origin, then Ys I&II Chronicles, and I think Ys IV: Memories of Celceta after that, then Ys Seven, Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana, and Ys IX: Monstrum Nox.

This isn't necessarily "the best" play order (there really isn't any official "the best" play order anyway), but if you're looking to watch the gradual evolution of the series you can get some idea of it by doing this. For example the three Napishtim engine games (Ark, Oath, and Origin) seem to be generally regarded as getting gradually better from one to the next.

[Ikagura]

The last game, Monstrum Nox, makes a big reference to Kefin (Ys V) but you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise.

[Mondae Sundae]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

The last game, Monstrum Nox, makes a big reference to Kefin (Ys V) but you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise.

As far as I can tell, there is nothing in this sentence preventing "this game" from being a reference to Monstrum Nox. I'm fairly sure you mean Ys V though.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Mondae Sundae:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

The last game, Monstrum Nox, makes a big reference to Kefin (Ys V) but you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise.

As far as I can tell, there is nothing in this sentence preventing "this game" from being a reference to Monstrum Nox. I'm fairly sure you mean Ys V though.

What do you mean? The whole alchemy stuff reveal in the 2/3rd of the game was also in Ys V in a way.

Anyway I cannot wait to see the remake coming.

[ZugzwangGroo]

WOW, what a response !!! Thanks yall !!!

[Mondae Sundae]

Originally posted by Ikagura:

Originally posted by Mondae Sundae:

As far as I can tell, there is nothing in this sentence preventing "this game" from being a reference to Monstrum Nox. I'm fairly sure you mean Ys V though.

What do you mean? The whole alchemy stuff reveal in the 2/3rd of the game was also in Ys V in a way.

Anyway I cannot wait to see the remake coming.

This sentence:

"The last game, Monstrum Nox, makes a big reference to Kefin (Ys V) but you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise."


...has 2 possible ways that it can be interpreted:

"The last game, Monstrum Nox ... you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise."

"...Kefin (Ys V) ... you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise."


If someone hasn't played either game, there's nothing stopping them from interpreting this in an unintended way.


I've not yet played Monstrum Nox (and subsequently can't speak for it), but I have played Ys V.

So, strictly my opinion:
Ys V had some really cool ideas, but ultimately dropped the ball hard. I also can't wait for a remake of Ys V -- it's desperately needed.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

there's an Ys typing game, but i guess we're on our way to developing an Ys grammar game

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Mondae Sundae:

Originally posted by Ikagura:

What do you mean? The whole alchemy stuff reveal in the 2/3rd of the game was also in Ys V in a way.

Anyway I cannot wait to see the remake coming.

This sentence:

"The last game, Monstrum Nox, makes a big reference to Kefin (Ys V) but you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise."


...has 2 possible ways that it can be interpreted:

"The last game, Monstrum Nox ... you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise."

"...Kefin (Ys V) ... you don't lose anything from not playing this game as it's probably one of the weakest entry in the franchise."


If someone hasn't played either game, there's nothing stopping them from interpreting this in an unintended way.


I've not yet played Monstrum Nox (and subsequently can't speak for it), but I have played Ys V.

So, strictly my opinion:
Ys V had some really cool ideas, but ultimately dropped the ball hard. I also can't wait for a remake of Ys V -- it's desperately needed.

Sorry if it was confusing, of course I was talking about Ys V (and yes it needs a remake).

[daviddesjardins1]

Did you all know that they made an mmorpg a long time ago.

That said, they pulled the plug to the game a fews years after since it was not that profits wise

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by daviddesjardins1:

Did you all know that they made an mmorpg a long time ago.

That said, they pulled the plug to the game a fews years after since it was not that profits wise

Honeslty I don't know how Falcom would support a MMO as WoW and FF XI existed and how the genre is slow paced compared to ARPGs.

We'd not talk about Ys strategy either (which should've been a Fire Emblem/Shining Force clone instead of a RTS).

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

I heard that Ys Strategy just generally sucked. Dunno much about the MMO.

[Ikagura]

Originally posted by Quint the Alligator Snapper:

I heard that Ys Strategy just generally sucked. Dunno much about the MMO.

Me neither but I'm not into MMOs in general.