"Ys I & II Chronicles+" vs "Ys I & II" on PC Engine CD?

[Squerol]

Worth getting if I don't care about graphics?

I like PC Engine graphic style and music is nice too. Ramming into enemies is strangely fun too. I emulate and play it right now.

So any pros to get it over PCE CD version?

I'm new into Ys btw, just finished Ys III on Genesis/MD (had a blast but it was damn too short)

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

IIRC you get to choose like two different interface styles in the Chronicles+ version and three different soundtrack styles. One of thsoe soundtracks is the PCE version.

Also, if you enjoyed Ys III (Wanderers), then you may enjoy its remake, The Oath in Felghana.

[Ikagura]

To be honest I did both versions and they're both solid ones.


But you can mod the PCE CD OST into the files of the Steam version.

I consider this one the most definitive because it's the Canonical one and is the most accessible one to this date

PS: Well the "modern" Ys games (from Ys VI the Ark of Napishtim) are different from the first ones. You have Oath in Felghana (Ys III remake) that uses the same battle engine with more features and better combat gameplay and Ys Origins that is a prequel of the serie.

You also have Ys Seven that uses a party fight system, Memories of Celceta (the canonical remake of Ys IV that will come soon on PC) which also uses Seven's engine and finally Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana that uses a mix between the Napishtim and Seven engine and is the first truly 3D, behind the character camera game that allows you to both jump and switch characters

[Doomlord]

Eternal (or Complete or Chronicles or however you want to call it) is a full blown remake just like how Book I & II is a remake of the original PC-88 games. The story is vastly expanded (this game also marks the beginning of Falcom's amazing world building), the difficulty is higher especially if you go for Nightmare, you can now move in any direction instead of just 4, you can pick between three different soundtracks (or just mod the PCE-CD audio back in if you're a man of superior taste) and two different art styles for the character art, two interfaces (PC and PSP) and in general it's just a more advanced version of Book I & II.

The only drawbacks are no voice acting and the games are once again seperate. There is a feature that essentially emulates the transition between Ys I and Ys II like it was on the PCE-CD, however it doesn't work on neither the Steam nor GoG versions and XSEED ain't gonna fix it any time soon (read ever).

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Ikagura：

But you can mod the PCE CD OST into the files of the Steam version.

I thought it's already in there? If not, then what are the three versions?

引用自 Doomlord：

The only drawbacks are no voice acting and the games are once again seperate. There is a feature that essentially emulates the transition between Ys I and Ys II like it was on the PCE-CD, however it doesn't work on neither the Steam nor GoG versions and XSEED ain't gonna fix it any time soon (read ever).

IIRC Sara said she wants to fix it? But it's just not a high priority, since all it does is just launch the other game and skip the opening or something like that.

[Ikagura]

引用自 Quint the Demon Owl：

引用自 Ikagura：

But you can mod the PCE CD OST into the files of the Steam version.

I thought it's already in there? If not, then what are the three versions?

There's the original PC88 soundtrack, the complete soundtrack and the Chronicles soundtrack.

Personally I find the Chronicles OST on almost the same level of quality of the PCE CD (it use a studio recorded rock music for the action themes), even tho the PCE CD has the whole 80's synth music charm to it

[Doomlord]

Perfect collection is still best

[Ikagura]

引用自 Doomlord：

Perfect collection is still best

Yep, Especially First Step Towards Wars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1bXXPBZzM

[Squerol]

引用自 Quint the Demon Owl：

Also, if you enjoyed Ys III (Wanderers), then you may enjoy its remake, The Oath in Felghana.

uhhh just watched some gameplays from it on yt, gameplay doesn't look promising for me, well can't tell more till I play and try it. Looks like totally different game.
The PS2 Ys III remake looks like better candidate to play for me (still 2d side view).

引用自 Ikagura：

To be honest I did both versions and they're both solid ones.

But you can mod the PCE CD OST into the files of the Steam version.

I consider this one the most definitive because it's the Canonical one and is the most accessible one to this date

PS: Well the "modern" Ys games (from Ys VI the Ark of Napishtim) are different from the first ones. You have Oath in Felghana (Ys III remake) that uses the same battle engine with more features and better combat gameplay and Ys Origins that is a prequel of the serie.

You also have Ys Seven that uses a party fight system, Memories of Celceta (the canonical remake of Ys IV that will come soon on PC) which also uses Seven's engine and finally Ys VIII Lacrimosa of Dana that uses a mix between the Napishtim and Seven engine and is the first truly 3D, behind the character camera game that allows you to both jump and switch characters

Thanks for indroducing other parts of Ys series.
VI Ark and Origins looks meh for me but Seven (except graphics), Celceta and VIII looks not that bad.

引用自 Doomlord：

Eternal (or Complete or Chronicles or however you want to call it) is a full blown remake just like how Book I & II is a remake of the original PC-88 games. The story is vastly expanded (this game also marks the beginning of Falcom's amazing world building), the difficulty is higher especially if you go for Nightmare, you can now move in any direction instead of just 4, you can pick between three different soundtracks (or just mod the PCE-CD audio back in if you're a man of superior taste) and two different art styles for the character art, two interfaces (PC and PSP) and in general it's just a more advanced version of Book I & II.

The only drawbacks are no voice acting and the games are once again seperate. There is a feature that essentially emulates the transition between Ys I and Ys II like it was on the PCE-CD, however it doesn't work on neither the Steam nor GoG versions and XSEED ain't gonna fix it any time soon (read ever).

Thanks man, it is the answer I was looking for.

Changes and additions sounds good, I can live without voice acting too.
Well, I will definitely give it a shot after finishing PCE version so, it vortexed me too much so far, need finish it.

引用自 Ikagura：

引用自 Doomlord：

Perfect collection is still best

Yep, Especially First Step Towards Wars!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KM1bXXPBZzM

Yup, sounds good.

My favourite (but didn't played much Ys games so it can change) so far is that track from Genesis/MD, that sh@t so good and fits boss fights there (You will definitely hate it if You get ear cancer from genesis/md chip music)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPKx2NCxtgo&t=

Thank You again for answers guys!

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Squerol：

引用自 Quint the Demon Owl：

Also, if you enjoyed Ys III (Wanderers), then you may enjoy its remake, The Oath in Felghana.

uhhh just watched some gameplays from it on yt, gameplay doesn't look promising for me, well can't tell more till I play and try it. Looks like totally different game.
The PS2 Ys III remake looks like better candidate to play for me (still 2d side view).

Oh yeah, it's an entirely different experience. Don't expect it to be similar except in some story elements.

If you're in the mood for something similar to the platforming action of Ys III, an unrelated game called Fortune Summoners might be more like it.

[Ikagura]

That's kinda funny because most people consider that Oath + Origin are better than Seven + Celceta

And Ys III is condisered as a "meh" game in the serie with Mask of the Sun and Kefin

[Saralene]

引用自 Doomlord：

There is a feature that essentially emulates the transition between Ys I and Ys II like it was on the PCE-CD, however it doesn't work on neither the Steam nor GoG versions and XSEED ain't gonna fix it any time soon (read ever).

Whoa, whoa. That's definitely coming off aggressive and I actually have a concrete plan on how to fix it besides. I've also been working on fixing the laggy/crashy file screen in the Steam version of Ys I. I got a chance to work on these games when updating the GOG versions, and it's still a work-in-progress.

[Squerol]

引用自 Quint the Demon Owl：

an unrelated game called Fortune Summoners might be more like it.

I'm not into loli stuff, thanks

引用自 Ikagura：

And Ys III is condisered as a "meh" game in the serie with Mask of the Sun and Kefin

What about Dawn of Ys? I've just finished it today, for me it was superior to book I & II (from same PCE CD console). Especially boss fights - ys I/II simple boss fights became ashamed - huuuge jump in quality there.

[Quint the Alligator Snapper]

引用自 Squerol：

引用自 Quint the Demon Owl：

an unrelated game called Fortune Summoners might be more like it.

I'm not into loli stuff, thanks

There's no sexual content, unless you consider looking at cute girls to be sexual content.

But anyways, I just remembered, Salt and Sanctuary is a combat-focused 2D platformer. Though both S&S and FS are more about deliberate combat, which I'm not sure Ys III is. (S&S specifically, I've heard, takes after Dark Souls in its gameplay style.)

[Ikagura]

引用自 Squerol：

引用自 Ikagura：

And Ys III is condisered as a "meh" game in the serie with Mask of the Sun and Kefin

What about Dawn of Ys? I've just finished it today, for me it was superior to book I & II (from same PCE CD console). Especially boss fights - ys I/II simple boss fights became ashamed - huuuge jump in quality there.

Dawn of Ys looks like a great game (I plan to do it very soon) but sadly it's not canon because Falcom didn't make it (it was Hudson).

I'm still glad that XSEED are porting Memories of Celceta on PC tho

[PoppaDFitFridayNuts]

Ys Book I & II is one of my favorite games of all time.

Still get goosebumps listening to the intro https://youtu.be/KT-y7bZlpJM?t=13

I'm so very disappointed that there is no voice acting. They couldn't just port that over from the CD version? It really immerses you into the storyline! I guess I should have just took out the TurboDuo & played Ys Book I & II. The updated music is good, but seems to fall short from the CD version as well in terms of depth. I guess like they are saying above this Chronicles game is it's own 'thing'