DCS World Steam Edition

DCS World Steam Edition

★Macman★ (已封禁) 2020 年 8 月 13 日 下午 7:39
The famous Wales to Cumbria Lake District Mach Loop - A must for DCS & coming Eurofighter!
I've flown this famous circuit many times in CAP2 (a VR Harrier Combat Sim) and it really is awesome! This is where the RAF train for fast low ground combat skills through the Valleys. Now that we know the Eurofighter Typhoon is coming out then it MUST have this Map if only for Training purposes just like we have Nevada Map.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kT7qrYi8R_M
最后由 ★Macman★ 编辑于; 2020 年 8 月 17 日 下午 5:47
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rimmer66 2020 年 8 月 13 日 下午 9:13 
stupid idea , this will not happen.
★Macman★ (已封禁) 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 7:54 
Well Nevada happend. So that was stupid too. I never see that Map ever on Servers.
So is the Eurofighter Stupid? Where does it fit? Normandy & The Channel. No problem to expand onto The Channel - THE MACH LOOP then.
spike2071 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 8:34 
引用自 Macman
Well Nevada happend. So that was stupid too. I never see that Map ever on Servers.
So is the Eurofighter Stupid? Where does it fit? Normandy & The Channel. No problem to expand onto The Channel - THE MACH LOOP then.

You state that the Mach Loop map is like the Nevada map. Then you state that the Nevada map is stupid and no one uses it. So...you admit the Mach Loop map is a stupid idea and no one would use it.

Good thread. :lunar2020thinkingtiger:
★Macman★ (已封禁) 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 11:37 
I merely pointed out the utter obvious bias mate o7

It would never make it into Game ever...
Why would the HARRIER? Then to even think of adding the EUROFIGHTER?
Hell...you'd think we don;t need Maps. We can just train on the same popular 2 Maps always.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkx42s68ycE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i6Hq3qfBnpM
最后由 ★Macman★ 编辑于; 2020 年 8 月 14 日 上午 11:40
spike2071 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 12:30 
引用自 Macman
I merely pointed out the utter obvious bias mate o7

It would never make it into Game ever...
Why would the HARRIER? Then to even think of adding the EUROFIGHTER?
Hell...you'd think we don;t need Maps. We can just train on the same popular 2 Maps always.
LOL, not everything you dislike is because of bias. You're like a broken record. Perhaps they made the Nevada map and realized no one played it, so why build another map that even you agree no one would play? The person literally advocating for the map compares it to a "stupid" map that no one plays. :steamfacepalm:

Perhaps they agreed to build it because they had a contract for building out the A-10C for military training, and the Nevada map was part of that contract?

Perhaps people want maps built around recent conflicts. Not a map in Central Wales that hasn't seen direct conflict since the age of flight began.

In case you're not aware, there are other maps in the works. Syrian map should be out soon (you know, a location with recent conflicts), and the Falklands map is coming as well (you know, a map of a recent conflict). The Marianas is coming at some point, too (the 3 most popular modules are all carrier-based planes), and it has a USAF base and the potential for a carrier showdown with Chinese/Russian vs NATO assets.
最后由 spike2071 编辑于; 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 12:34
startrekmike 2020 年 8 月 14 日 下午 8:54 
引用自 Macman
Well Nevada happend. So that was stupid too. I never see that Map ever on Servers.
So is the Eurofighter Stupid? Where does it fit? Normandy & The Channel. No problem to expand onto The Channel - THE MACH LOOP then.

There is one critical difference. The Nevada map covers the area where Red Flag is held and as such, it may be a training map but it is a particularly extensive one that has plenty of room for everything from just basic flight to actual "training" scenarios where you can set up the proper bombing ranges and such. Doing simulated combat in a flight simulator isn't exactly my personal cup of tea but it is a pretty logical map considering the training value of the red flag campaigns and the like.

The Mach loop is a different situation. It may be a popular spot for military aircraft enthusiasts and photographers but at the end of the day, it is just a place where pilots train in low level flight. It is cool for that specific thing but it doesn't really offer any versatility or potential for weapons training/usage. It isn't really a place where any live-fire training is done unlike Nevada.

Another thing you have brought up is what maps are being run on servers and what ones are not. That doesn't really matter. In the same way that DCS is not predominately multiplayer, the maps are not either. You will find that many buy maps that are not popular online because they use them for their own single player or even co-op misisons on private servers. Just because you don't see them on the public server rotation does not mean that they are not useful or desirable to players.

Getting back to the Mach Loop. Again. I understand that it is a popular spot and there are a lot of aviation enthusiasts who have a soft spot for it but I am not sure it will really have much of a function in DCS. It might be fun to fly around in but I could see how Eagle Dynamics and various third parties might worry that it wouldn't really generate a lot of buzz when compared to more versatile maps like The Persian Gulf, Syria, or the like.
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