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Well, you can buy one of the former LOMAC/FC3 planes (Mig-29, Su-25, Su-27, Su-33, A-10A, F-15C) which are pretty cheap.
But remeber that you will "got what you pay", that means a simplified model plane with no clickable cockpit.
Or you can buy all these airplanes in one DLC "Flaming cliffs 3". But yes, thay don't have clickable cockpits. But if you want to learn flying more than learn each system of speciffic airplane it is better to begin with "Flaming cliffs 3". The fly model of these airplanes are as realistic as all other, standalone airplanes. They just don't have clickable cockpits.
Look, I hate to be "that guy" but this is a bit misleading. The Flaming Cliffs stuff is fine and is perhaps one avenue for new players to ease into DCS as a whole but it does add some wrinkles into the learning process that should be honestly considered.
While the flight models for the Flaming Cliffs aircraft are quite good, the systems modeling is very, very simplified. This in itself isn't a bad thing but for a new player who is looking to get into DCS as a whole, the lack of realistic system modeling means that when a player does transition from FC3 aircraft to the full fidelity ones, they are pretty much starting from square one. They will need to learn how to use radios, navigation systems, stores management systems, in-depth weapon operation, sensor (targeting pod, etc) operation, radar operation, the list goes on and on. They might learn the basic concepts in a FC3 aircraft but it won't really do much to flatten the learning curve when all is said and done.
So, yes, the flight models of the FC3 stuff are pretty much in line with the full fidelity modules but the systems modeling is so simplified that the FC3 stuff ends up being almost a entirely different experience that won't really prepare you for the full fidelity stuff.
Don't see any problem with this. There is a PDF user guide for each standalone airplane. Just read and learn. If you will start just clicking each button in the cockpit, you won't get anywhere. But before you start flying, you need to read the whole user guide, then to launch the game, start the plane and try each system on the ground and in the air with a user guide oppened.
So in othe words, you just need more time to learn the standalone plane than the FC3 plane. But on the other side i think that for a new player that will start playing missions it will be very annoying to start airplane about 2 minutes, then set all the systems about 5 minutes, then get in the air and shot by the enemy in 2 secconds because he/she don't know how to avoid enemy missiles. With FC3 airplanes you can just focus on learning to fly, making all kind of antimissile manuvers and actually fighting the enemies.
But again, this is my point view. I prefer it this way, begin from easy and go to the hard. But of course, each person do it in it's own way.
Anyway, the author of this thread asked for cheapest DLC. I think "Flaming cliffs 3" is the cheapest DLC in this game, because it have 7 planes in it. By the way, a lot of free mod airplanes requires FC3 DLC.
I don't see a problem with the learning curve either. I am just saying that it isn't exactly a great idea to sell the FC3 stuff as a good stepping stone towards the full fidelity modules since the FC3 stuff handles systems operation so differently and not in a way that naturally advances the player towards the full fidelity stuff.
To expand a bit. I actually tend to think that newer players are better served getting the aircraft module they want as opposed to the one that is "easiest to learn". Sometimes it is better to start with a complex module so that you can develop the learning toolset needed right off the bat. When taken step by step and assuming that one uses good, accurate documentation (like the manual and Chuck's guide together for example), learning the even the most complex DCS module isn't exactly "difficult" but does require some patience and meaningful effort regardless. I just don't think the FC3 stuff really teaches that patience or encourages that level of effort due to their low fidelity nature.
I think that people that don't have patience to learn, would not learn even one of FC 3 airplane. Actually they do have some systems to learn, like radars, RWR, even different kind of weapons. Ground strike airplanes have CCIP and CCRP modes. The setup for quantity of bombs throwing in one throw, e.t.c.. They also have trimmers and some of airplanes can even do aerial refueling which is a hardest operation in this game I think. So it is pretty much stuff to learn. Anyway I started from FC 3 and I just like all russian airplanes, even the SU-25 and SU-25T that most of the players don't like. But my favorite airplane from FC 3 is MiG-29S.
Don't misjudge me: I really love FC3 planes!
I've survived a couple of flames here since I've suggested to newbyes to start with FC3 module.
I just warned the OP that he can't pay 6$ one module expecting the same complexity of a full scale model like A-10C or F/A-18. Most of FC3 planes have a very good flight model but their avionics is extremely simplified (which however is perfect for new players).
Buying the full FC3 pack is even better, but "cheap" is relative, I don't know if 23$ is cheap enough for the OP.
I started with FC2 (later FC3), it was a good stepping stone for me.
Wasn't looking for full fidelity modules, just wanted to learn how to fly, fight, land (both on land and on carriers) and do air refueling.
Also, fulcrum and eagle are two of my favorite planes, so I wanted to have them.
FC3 offered the most bang for the buck too (at least for me), so it really was a no brainer.
On another note, maybe you've forgotten it, but FC2/FC3 used to be considered complex back in the day, when DCS didn't yet have the wealth of high fidelity modules it has now.
For total newcomers used to arcade games, FC3 still presents many challenges, definitely not an easy module to get into if you're starting from zero.
I just like planes, so for me FC 3 is great, because it have 7 planes of different roles and different countries. As for "cheap", I mean that it is cheaper than let's say F-14B. Of course there is nothing to compare. F-14B requires much more hours to learn it, and it have much higher level of simulaton. But again, it is only one plane. For me it is not enough.
I like to fly different planes, because each one feels very different.
Anyway, as it was mentioned in a couple of similar threads. It is better to buy an airplane that you like the most. Because then you will want to learn it. But if it is only a matter of a price, than one of FC 3 planes or the whole FC 3 DLC to get them all.
Hello, I am selling my dcs account, I got almost everything, I am only missing the JF-17, the two WW2 map and all the campaings. If interested please let me know.
As for FC3... I followed the general advice and went that route. It was great until I got a taste of full fidelity. Once I got a full fideity module however I rarely go back to it. I actually think full fidelity is easier because you don't have to memorize as many keybinds. Just click the labeled switch.