TWS is Scam and actually noone from DCS:W community supports that.

[Troll Norris]

For those who don't know about this case, In the TWS page are(were) false reviews. Those looks like written by known names. E.G. the SpudKnocker. In reality the SpudKnocker have never written any review of this SCAM.

More about TWS:
https://youtu.be/df26BBbsj1M
https://youtu.be/y21Mo1gRXPE
https://youtu.be/h7EmO9uVB-Y

[Emme]

Kudos to all the people being so dedicated and dive down deep to expose this scam for everyone out there, who could potentially fall for this. I have nothing but respect to all these guys been there at discord asking the right questions, just absolutely spot on.

Now it's time to grab some popcorn and watch the event of this "TWS" CEO going down south in such a spectacular fashion. He already claimed to have the USSOCOM with him so I can't get to wait and see who's next on his list. xD

Always curious about how people like this TWS CEO manage to live up to their completely delusional minds.

[james7347]

Excellent video Troll

[spike2071]

People have been calling it Track While Scam for at least a year now.

[Troll Norris]

Originally posted by spike2071:

People have been calling it Track While Scam for at least a year now.

I've had no clue that something like TWS exists until I've found this video.

[Delta Dagger]

What triggered my initial skepticism was when they advertised the Super Hornet as available, but the images showed off a Legacy Hornet. After watching the trailer, everything was clearly on rails and I was very skeptical. Within a short spell of time, I'd been linked to all of the used assets featured in their videos.

The idea of fully realized study sim aircraft, armor, and infantry combat in the same program should instantly start setting off alarm bells for anyone into the mil-sim scene. Of course, the supporters and alleged developers would be quick to remind you of all those lovely times everyone doubted <Insert famous name here who did amazing thing.> because <amazing thing> was "impossible."

Remember that this isn't a question of what is and what isn't possible. Of course, it's possible. But, we shouldn't be asking what is possible and instead ask what is practical.

Is it possible to do what TWS promises? Yes.
Is it practical? Not really.
Is it practical to do it on a shoestring budget and as a free-to-play game? Square peg, round hole.

I see this come up once in a while as "COMPETITION FOR DCS" and hope whoever is touting it hasn't parted with any money of theirs.

[spike2071]

Originally posted by Troll Norris:

Originally posted by spike2071:

People have been calling it Track While Scam for at least a year now.

I've had no clue that something like TWS exists until I've found this video.

https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/w0uup4/track_while_scan_is_a_scam/?rdt=65095

I know there were a few other Hoggit posts about it, as well. Jabbers had a video on them about a year ago when the trailer came out; that's how I first saw it. People thought it was shady then. But it's always good to have more info to highlight the scam. :)

[sergio.e.samayoa]

Holly guacamole!

And with US government is so corrupt that such guy may end getting a DoD contract!

[Xupicor]

Originally posted by sergio.e.samayoa:

Holly guacamole!

And with US government is so corrupt that such guy may end getting a DoD contract!

There was a journalistic (in a good sense) YT video about TWS and some Discord voice chat with the dev/CEO was also in one of those. The significance being that big names in DCS community were in that chat and they were pretty damn skeptical about this whole thing.

I think either just before the video was published, or some days after, the DoD contract that the CEO was counting on was not only denied, byt the company was blacklisted.

So... I don't think we're gonna see TWS and I don't think the CEO is gonna see his precious DoD deal. A rare case of military _not_ spending done right. ; )

edit: Ah, Troll linked to the video, lol. My stupid ass didn't even notice.

[Troll Norris]

Story continues:
https://youtu.be/h7EmO9uVB-Y

[Delta Dagger]

Originally posted by Xupicor:

Originally posted by sergio.e.samayoa:

Holly guacamole!

And with US government is so corrupt that such guy may end getting a DoD contract!

There was a journalistic (in a good sense) YT video about TWS and some Discord voice chat with the dev/CEO was also in one of those. The significance being that big names in DCS community were in that chat and they were pretty damn skeptical about this whole thing.

I think either just before the video was published, or some days after, the DoD contract that the CEO was counting on was not only denied, byt the company was blacklisted.

So... I don't think we're gonna see TWS and I don't think the CEO is gonna see his precious DoD deal. A rare case of military _not_ spending done right. ; )

edit: Ah, Troll linked to the video, lol. My stupid ass didn't even notice.

At most, I'd expect a minor contractor to spend money on it and then quickly realized they were boned.

DoD is a nice gravy train, but it expects some kind of result, for better or for worse.

[SpaceViper]

He made it all up. That guy is a *known liar*. Someone even called him out for it. Do your research next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCle_8Kc4U

[Undead Rufus]

Originally posted by SpaceViper:

He made it all up. That guy is a *known liar*. Someone even called him out for it. Do your research next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCle_8Kc4U

What a weird post. You say, "He made it all up," and someone "called him out," but then share a random video about the mother of a school shooter. If g0at is actually lying, then the least you could have done was provide an on-topic rebuttal (i.e. regarding TWS and Terasynth).

[Troll Norris]

I wouldn't take this accusation of lying seriously. Because as is well known, it is not the experience of an individual, but of a community. There are enough credible witnesses that these are indeed frauds. For example, the YouTubers Jabbers, who is also a former military pilot, Spudkcocker, OperatorDrewski, are all mentioned in the video, and for example Spud testified that his name was misused on the TWS website. Also published are testimonies of some of the developers who worked for Terasynth.

If anyone wants to check, they can ask these youtubers directly.

There is no refutation in the video that he lied about TWS.
This is argumentative foul "whataboutism"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism
The first pinned comment under the video, posted by Miorby, who is creator of this video:

Was just about to post a video addressing our mess of an argument but then saw Timmy's video. I will scrap this video and respond to his as soon as I can! I don't accept his spin and i'll explain why, but I believe we can end the drama here.

[Insônia]

I think you guys have no idea who this person is...lol
https://i.imgur.com/Mrs0Tyf.png
Probably an alt of Ali himself or Some Terasynth dude that still active.
this is entertaining.

Please, Ali, put in a little more effort in "picking up your slack" rather than attack some you-tuber with unrelated topics.
Im very anticipate how your next plan unfold.

[startrekmike]

Originally posted by SpaceViper:

He made it all up. That guy is a *known liar*. Someone even called him out for it. Do your research next time.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OUCle_8Kc4U

Just took a quick glance at your Steam forum post history. In what will no doubt surprise absolutely nobody, you show up as a developer on the TWS steam forum. What a shocker...