I'm new to rudders...

[Strider_9000]

After briefly playing around with DCS a while back, I'm getting ready to give it a more serious shot. I already own a Warthog hotas, and I'm currently looking around at rudders...I've never owned any before, so any suggestions on what's good / pairs nice with the Warthog? After my 1st pass looking around, I think I like the MFG Crosswind V2, but any vet advice is welcome.

[Surrexen]

Although expensive, the Thrustmaster TPR pedals are absolutely brilliant. I nearly went for Crosswinds but the TPR's are just sublime. Since it is Thrustmaster it obviously pairs perfectly with the Warthog HOTAS (which is also what I use).

Edit: Oh and I can absolutely assure you, once you do buy a set of rudder pedals you will be wondering how on earth you ever did without them.

[Strider_9000]

Surrexen původně napsal:

Although expensive, the Thrustmaster TPR pedals are absolutely brilliant. I nearly went for Crosswinds but the TPR's are just sublime. Since it is Thrustmaster it obviously pairs perfectly with the Warthog HOTAS (which is also what I use).

Edit: Oh and I can absolutely assure you, once you do buy a set of rudder pedals you will be wondering how on earth you ever did without them.

Thanks for that suggestion, I'm looking at it now...one other thing I should have mentioned is that I'm a pretty large dude (6'5"), so the pedals being too close together is something I also need to keep in mind...

[ZeroReady]

I'm 6'2, size 12 feet. The TM T-flight pedals are pretty good for first pedals. Cheap, good quality, durable. If you dont want to drop 500 on pedals they're a good option. Looking to upgrade soon, but I've had them almost 2 years now.

[Surrexen]

strider_9000 původně napsal:

Surrexen původně napsal:

Although expensive, the Thrustmaster TPR pedals are absolutely brilliant. I nearly went for Crosswinds but the TPR's are just sublime. Since it is Thrustmaster it obviously pairs perfectly with the Warthog HOTAS (which is also what I use).

Edit: Oh and I can absolutely assure you, once you do buy a set of rudder pedals you will be wondering how on earth you ever did without them.

Thanks for that suggestion, I'm looking at it now...one other thing I should have mentioned is that I'm a pretty large dude (6'5"), so the pedals being too close together is something I also need to keep in mind...

You must have looked at the TFRP pedals, not the TPR pedals. Big difference in size.

[[GCA] King Apo]

I have owned (used) Saitek Pro Flight Rudder Pedals for a few years now, not really 100% happy with them, and they are showing signs of use (need deadzone etc.). But I think they are an okay entry level if you can buy them cheap somewhere.

Mfg Crosswind I see on ebay etc. in germany aswell sometimes. I was prepared to buy them a few times, but something always came up that made a hole in my pocket. Still want them! =)

[Troll Norris]

Rudders are good for prop planes and IMO essencial for helicopters. But not every rudder pedals are good. I tried Saitek rudder pedals. Those were good only for cca 2 years. After that the friction was very annoying and caused very inaccurade pedal movement. After that I got the G940 pedals. IMO the pedals were too close and the sensor resolution was too low for my needs. Now I have MFG Crosswind. Probably the pedals those will overlive myself. Ball bearings in combination with the cam centering mechanism and hall sensors grants really accurate and comfortable experience. I really love the cam centering system. There is no "center detent" so I don't have to fight with "bump" in the central position.

[xvii-Dietrich]

I used to use CH-pro-pedals. A bit clunky and quite close together, so not so good. But rugged and they certainly lasted while I was using them.

Troll Norris původně napsal:

Rudders are good for prop planes and IMO essencial for helicopters.

If you want to really go for helicopters, do not get rudder pedals. Instead get proper anti-torque pedals, which have no hard centre-return or detent, and which pivot in the transverse axis, rather than linear or in the vertical axis like many fixed-wing pedal systems do.

[Troll Norris]

xvii-Dietrich původně napsal:

I used to use CH-pro-pedals. A bit clunky and quite close together, so not so good. But rugged and they certainly lasted while I was using them.

Troll Norris původně napsal:

Rudders are good for prop planes and IMO essencial for helicopters.

If you want to really go for helicopters, do not get rudder pedals. Instead get proper anti-torque pedals, which have no hard centre-return or detent, and which pivot in the transverse axis, rather than linear or in the vertical axis like many fixed-wing pedal systems do.

IRL the anti-torque pedals also have centering. And you can adjust the position of center by using the magnetic brake (trim).

[Strider_9000]

All great intel, guys, exactly what I was looking for. I really appreciate it!

[HoboCop]

ZeroReady původně napsal:

I'm 6'2, size 12 feet. The TM T-flight pedals are pretty good for first pedals. Cheap, good quality, durable. If you dont want to drop 500 on pedals they're a good option. Looking to upgrade soon, but I've had them almost 2 years now.

Seriously? I bought these for my first pedals a little over a year ago and they are now junk!!
I never really got used to them because the sliding motion is sticky and not smooth, they are way too close together (I'm 6ft 3 ) so I really didn't use them much at all except for taxiing really and then the potentiometer broke in one of the toe brakes which made them impossible to use as it wanted to hold the brakes on to the right. So then I unmapped the toe brakes and looked for a replacement "pot" which to this day I still haven't found due to the them obviously being a custom creation.

I too own the warthog and I also have the f18 grip, but the build on these cheapo pedals is on par with the horrid warthog gimbal which I replaced with a Virpil warbrd.

It is because of this that I'm looking to get some Virpil rudder pedals too. If the hog gimbal and these cheapo nasty pedals is anything to go off of (not to mention the useless hog slew control) then I do not want any more Thrustmaster gear to be honest - I made an exception with the F18 grip.

[Northy]

CH Products Rudder pedals seem to be bomb proof and reasonably priced.

[Disgruntled Cuttlefish]

The cheap TM ones can't center naturally well and I feel the need to fight with it and use the control indicator constantly to tell where the rudder is at. I would not recommend the cheap TM pedals as the above user did and suggest going with something nicer, and this includes other options for far less than $500, there are options in between like the CH pedals.. MFG Crosswind isn't nearly that expensive either.

[HoboCop]

76561198017336274 původně napsal:

The cheap TM ones can't center naturally well and I feel the need to fight with it and use the control indicator constantly to tell where the rudder is at. I would not recommend the cheap TM pedals as the above user did and suggest going with something nicer, and this includes other options for far less than $500, there are options in between like the CH pedals.. MFG Crosswind isn't nearly that expensive either.

100% agree. They are an overpriced steaming pile of plastic. Whilst they may be cheaper than most other pedals, you will not be able to use them for ANYTHING other than a foot rest.

[Mors]

I leave all the rotating pedals to store now since I got VKB Mk.IV pedals.
They are totally different from all other pedals by being a 1) chair compatible so you move feets up/down like stepping on the pedals 2) you do not need toe brakes itself for almost anything such way that you couldn't do all the carrier turns with a hornet etc with the VKB pedals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pk1huZqKufA

The pedals are crazy compared to others. They first look too simple compared to others etc. But combined with the VKB stick you can do alone with the toe braking.

And if you are ever going to fly helicopters, it is far nicer to do with VKB.

The huge deal is that when you are sitting in chair and you want to use pedals, it ain't at all so comfortable with others than it is with VKB. There is no such effort with VKB, meaning you will forget that your feets are on it. You just learn to use them without noticing that you are using them. The VKB pedals has two strengths, and I haven't even tested the hard position but using only default light one. And it makes the pedals be so light that you don't notice using the pedals (helps a lot in helicopters motto "If you are thinking it, you are overdoing it") but the centering is nice and noticeable but it is not at all on the way that you would need any curves or deadzones, meaning the centering doesn't deny you to apply just the minimal amount of pedal.

And this I say after owning pedals from Thrustmaster, CH, Logitech, Saitek and using MFG.

And learning by hard way, less moving parts etc, then better. And you can't really get simpler than what the VKB pedals really are.

[-OrLoK- Слава Україн]

I adore my MFGs