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FlameDaKing Nov 15, 2024 @ 6:33am
Are Razbam modules safe to buy?
I heard that ED would continue development on them if Razbam stopped permanently however I couldn't find an official source confirming this
The ones I am interested in specifically is the F15E and Mirage 2000
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Mel Nov 15, 2024 @ 6:53am 
Originally posted by FlameDaKing:
I heard that ED would continue development on them if Razbam stopped permanently however I couldn't find an official source confirming this
The ones I am interested in specifically is the F15E and Mirage 2000


I'm in the same situation as you, in my razbam case I have the M2000 and the Harrier but right now I don't fly them, I mainly fly the F16 and F4 phantom (the latter is a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ marvel) but I'm interested in the F15E and I haven't bought it yet because of that, the dispute between RS and ED and I don't want to spend +50 euros for nothing, if someone could tell us something official or at least send a reassurance message it would be appreciated.
"safe"? absolutely.

might not function after a major engine change/upgrade? also yes.

if you don't get too attatched to their products then there's months, perhaps years of fun left in them. They might not be around for the full life of DCS though.
Ye lf
mosshunt Nov 15, 2024 @ 10:53am 
they will die some day unless ED has the source code, at this time the RB modules i have work
startrekmike Nov 15, 2024 @ 2:53pm 
Originally posted by FlameDaKing:
I heard that ED would continue development on them if Razbam stopped permanently however I couldn't find an official source confirming this
The ones I am interested in specifically is the F15E and Mirage 2000

So first let's talk about where things stand right now from as objective a stance as I can take. The Mirage 2000 is in decent shape. It is their oldest module and the one that they actually finished to the most complete degree. As it is right now, it is a good module. Keep in mind that since RAZBAM is no longer supporting their modules, it could very likely start getting more and more buggy as time goes on and there is only so much that Eagle Dynamics is going to be able to do about it.

Up next is the Harrier. In comparison to other similar modules in DCS, it is in somewhat rough shape. Some will argue that it is still fun regardless of its issues but on a basic technical level, it needs more work and general polish that it isn't likely to ever get. It is still playable but its complexity (and existing issues) make it less compelling considering the current RAZBAM dispute.

The MiG-19 has largely been abandoned and while it is flyable and some have fun with it, there is no debating that it never got the support it really should have had and now it is too late to expect it to ever reach its promised state.

The F-15E is where things will no doubt get a lot more controversial because some folks have different standards than others. At the moment, the F-15E is missing huge chunks of functionality and hasn't even reached its initial promised early access state. Regardless of one's loyalty to the aircraft itself or RAZBAM as a company, the module isn't in a good place and isn't currently worth the asking price considering that it isn't likely to ever get additional features/systems.

Overall? I don't think it is wise to buy RAZBAM stuff at this time and I don't really see a scenario where RAZBAM starts working on their modules again. It is better to focus on the stuff that other third parties and ED themselves are making.
sergio.e.samayoa Nov 16, 2024 @ 4:39pm 
Safe?
Perhaps, Even if RAZBAN wont maintain them anymore is very likely ED will do.

Wise?
Definitely no, especially unfinished F-15E
Sigmuh Mail Nov 25, 2024 @ 9:33pm 
doesn't matter these clowns will make you buy a new dlc like blackshark 6 and flaming cliffs 7 if you want the new features or to play online. what a joke of comapany. also no high tech russian vehicles. what a clown show.
mosshunt Nov 26, 2024 @ 9:42am 
the older more complete RB module will likely be fine and also likely ED hold the code or enough of it to keep those working i.e. M2kC, avoid the F15 as that will now never be finished.
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