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DCS World Steam Edition

Hootman 2023 年 5 月 14 日 下午 3:40
Thinking of the F18 or F16....couple of questions..
So I'm leaning towards the F-16 as my first full fidelity fighter, but also intrigued by the F-18.

1. Which aircraft is more complex to set up and operate, as far as control/bindings, and aircraft and weapons systems?
2. How many stations / control settings groups are there for each aircraft? Do both have a pilot/copilot bindings to set up (I am assuming the 2 seaters are also an option, or is there just 1 station (pilot))
3. Does the F-18 just not feel complete without carrier ops, or should I just bite the bullet and purchase both at the same time?
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Troll Norris 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:32 
I think people want to play DCS:W like DCS:W and not like WarThunder. Still, my opinion is the F-16 is easier to controll.

About FFB/Non-FFB issues: The best way to aviod them is to uncheck the "force feedback" options in misc. options menu in DCS:W. There are known issues when people let it turned on while they don't own FFB stick.
最後修改者:Troll Norris; 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:34
XIII 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:38 
引用自 Troll Norris
I think people want to play DCS:W like DCS:W and not like WarThunder.

Not sure whats that supposed to mean, but Ive seen discussions about "how DCS:W is ment to be played". Conclusion is that nobody knows, but a lot of people take their opinion very seriously.

引用自 Troll Norris
There are known issues when people let it turned on while they don't own FFB stick.

Its also doccumented the stick performs weirdly with it disabled. Like having a massive deadzone, and IDK if the way it controls become ultrasensitive at lower speeds is really how its supposed to work.
最後修改者:XIII; 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:38
Emme 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:40 
Personaly I find the F-16 more enjoyable and easier to operate. But in the end you can't go wrong with any of these modules. I just find that the F-18 will only feel complete with the SC module, so I would def recommend to go with that module as well if you consider to take the Hornet.

引用自 XIII
With a T-16000M I wouldnt even try it, especially not with an F-16 thats harder to refuel than an F-18.

引用自 XIII
T-16M got a bad centering spring like most cheap sticks, with a massive bump in the middle and little feel for detail.

The spring of that stick is absolutely fine and accurate, while granting a nice range and very precise movement. TBH I actually highly doubt that you've ever had your own hands on that setup when reading this.

The T16k FCS HOTAS is by far the best option for an entry level and anything in that price category. Maybe with the only exception beeing the helos that desperately need accurate rudder inputs, it will def allow anyone to operate every other ff module in DCS just perfectly fine no matter what you're trying to do.

If you can not manage to AR the F-16 with that stick then it's def a skill issue.

Sorry, no offense, but nobody needs high end peripherals to effectively play DCS at all. That's just an absolute misconception only being made by people with some serious luxury problems.
Troll Norris 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:44 
The modern F-16s uses force sensing side stick which is almost non-moving.
最後修改者:Troll Norris; 2023 年 5 月 16 日 上午 8:44
Burning Bridges 2024 年 9 月 21 日 上午 10:51 
This topic will keep coming up for new players, so here is my thoughts.

I used the trial option on both and ultimately decided for the F-16. The reasons were largely subjective but I liked it more.

If you are looking for one more reasons to justify a purchase, the F-16 also has that wonderful unrestricted canopy where you feel you are in a convertible.

It is also a hell of a mod and you can spend years training on it. But that goes for the F-18 as well, so either of them is a great choice.
T'Khaos 2024 年 9 月 21 日 下午 1:34 
引用自 Emme
The spring of that stick is absolutely fine and accurate, while granting a nice range and very precise movement. TBH I actually highly doubt that you've ever had your own hands on that setup when reading this.

The T16k FCS HOTAS is by far the best option for an entry level and anything in that price category. Maybe with the only exception beeing the helos that desperately need accurate rudder inputs, it will def allow anyone to operate every other ff module in DCS just perfectly fine no matter what you're trying to do.

Sorry, no offense, but nobody needs high end peripherals to effectively play DCS at all. That's just an absolute misconception only being made by people with some serious luxury problems.
Totally agree, the T.16000M is an excellent HOTAS for the money and nearly always comes out as number one choice for best in it's price range when reviewed professionally.

It's smooth, precise and excellent in dog fights. The only issue normally mentioned is the sticky throttle which is sorted by loosening the tension screw off and using it gently, rather than what most people that complain do and drag it around like a Gorilla. I've had no problems with A2A refuelling or anything else and I'm fine using it to fly helicopters using the flaps as rudders, don't use the twist axis at all.

There's a guy on YouTube that flies with keyboard and mouse and you would never know, he embarrasses some of the ones using high end HOTAS, they are fine with it though and just say how skilful he is. Some of the ED staff claim best way to go is controller, might try it one day just to see.

Had my T.16000M for around 5 years now, still just the same as the day it came out the box and just as precise. The T.16000M replaced my old X52 and pedals and is much better, prefer it to the X56 as well. I've had loads of different HOTAS and Joysticks over the years and Thrustmaster always comes out top of the list, still got an old Thrustmaster T.Flight that's over 8 years old and works like new.
最後修改者:T'Khaos; 2024 年 9 月 21 日 下午 1:35
Crow 2024 年 9 月 22 日 上午 3:28 
I had the same conundrum , so I bought both and never looked back , best choice I ever made now to go back to bombing .
mosshunt 2024 年 9 月 22 日 上午 3:54 
In my experience of both modules the F16 is the easiest to learn but the most limited of the two, if you want hard mode go for a boom and zoom F1 / F4E / F5 etc.
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