Does any one has this problem? (MS Force feedback 2)

[YouPay-chan]

this joystick works great in any game except on this one, some of the aircraft have a OFF center problem that I can not fix. when i go to the settings, some planes show too much OFF center in the X axis , some show too much OFF center for the Y axis.

Is there a WAY to ZERO the center of a joystick in the settings?

(My FF2 is perfectly calibrated in windows and it works great in any other sim i own)

[Troll Norris]

If you fly in for example SU-27, then deflection in vertical axis is intentionall because real SU-27 don't have symmetric axis. The push range is IRL much shorter than pull range.

[Troll Norris]

Once in aircraft press ctrl+enter to show axis diagram to see if your axis input is correct according to desired aircraft.

[YouPay-chan]

well, I replaced the stick with a non-FFB one and now it works like its suppose to. DCS has an issue with the MS FF2 but its in a plane by plane basis. (P-51 has zero ceter like its suppose to) but some planes have a 60% roll to the left. while others have less. same with Y axis.
my FF2 works perfectly well with any other sim i have.

[Troll Norris]

Maybe the FFB axis are swapped. You can swap and invert those in the controls options menu.

In controls options menu is "FF Tune" button. Press it. There you can swap and invert Force feedback axis.

Also as I have written, deflection at zero trim might be intentionall because non-symmetric push/pull pitch range.

https://youtu.be/OO2SV_tgt1k

[Troll Norris]

Check the video I posted above in time 11m 30s

[Xupicor]

I have a Rhino FFB and don't see any big issues in any modules to my memory. To have pitch displacemenet different than the "natural" center is a feature and not a bug (usually also there's a toggle in the special options),

If your center is shifted in the roll axis then I'm thinking your axes are swapped for some reason.

[YouPay-chan]

I just Discovered something weird, its not only in a plane by plane basis but in a mission to mission basis.
these are Flming Cliffs aircraft, if i pick the F5e and start the "take off" mission,
the F5E, X axis is in a 47% left roll.
but if i start the "landing" mission, the stick s perfectly centered. some aircraft start with different off center positions depending on which mission i start.

The SU27 always has a 28% right roll

the SU25T has a 25% right roll (non FC3)

and no, its not a cross wind or anything like that, its an issue with the FF2 i have but this stick is perfectly calibrated in windows and it works flawlessly with any other sim

[Troll Norris]

Please check the videos and advices which were given. Most probably you will have to swap FFB axis.

[YouPay-chan]

thank you, I'm beginning to understand how it works now. yes, the FFB forces were acting on the wrong axis. now the trimming makes more sense. that's pretty cool.
My microsoft FF2 is 30 years old and it still works so wonderfully.