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paulgoodman4 Sep 20, 2021 @ 5:32am
F5 issue
I can't get missiles to lock on to enemy acft. I have tone, missile switch s are armed, red guarded switch is armed. I don't get "locked on" or "in range" illuminated on radar screen. I am in missile mode.
Thx
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SSerponi76 Sep 20, 2021 @ 5:49am 
- How far are you from the target?
- Which kind of AIM-9 are you using?
Last edited by SSerponi76; Sep 20, 2021 @ 5:50am
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paulgoodman4 Sep 20, 2021 @ 7:00am 
Sserponi...gotten as close as .3 miles
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van Leeuwenhoek's mustache Sep 20, 2021 @ 7:23am 
These tutorials are old, but they might still be valid and provide an answer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xN_BnJTCR1I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fH9-ewIM-Uo

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startrekmike Sep 20, 2021 @ 9:24am 
Originally posted by paulgoodman4:
I can't get missiles to lock on to enemy acft. I have tone, missile switch s are armed, red guarded switch is armed. I don't get "locked on" or "in range" illuminated on radar screen. I am in missile mode.
Thx

Are you maintaining lock with the radar itself? I know that may seem like a stupid question but the radar is the one that gets you the locked/in range indicator, the Sidewinder missile lock itself isn't really going to necessarily impact that.
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SSerponi76 Sep 20, 2021 @ 10:22am 
Originally posted by paulgoodman4:
Sserponi...gotten as close as .3 miles

That's indeed strange.
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Perfect Info Sep 20, 2021 @ 11:09am 
By "tone", do you mean the ambient, "the seeker is working," noises or the louder, "the seeker is tracking," tone? If you have the louder, tracking tone, you ought to be able to launch regardless of radar cues (you can even leave the radar switched off). The range matters for whether the missile will have a reasonable probability of kill, but if you're close enough to count the rivets then you are probably in a high-PK range.

The other issue I could imagine with the lock is the aspect angle. Some of the sidewinders the F-5 can carry are old enough that they basically need LOS to the engine exhaust to track. If you are head-on aspect on the way to the merge, you might not get a lock or the lock might come too late to get the shot off.
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paulgoodman4 Sep 20, 2021 @ 11:15am 
perfect info...i am getting the seeker is working tone...not the louder tracking tone. dont know why i am not getting the tracking tone? Probably something I am doing. I have watched several youtube videos, and I think I am doing everything they are doing.
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startrekmike Sep 20, 2021 @ 11:22am 
Originally posted by paulgoodman4:
perfect info...i am getting the seeker is working tone...not the louder tracking tone. dont know why i am not getting the tracking tone? Probably something I am doing. I have watched several youtube videos, and I think I am doing everything they are doing.

It is very important to note that since the Sidewinder is a IR seeking missile, it's relationship with the radar (and thus the radar ranging and lock indicators) is going to depend almost entirely on getting and maintaining a radar lock on the target independent of the missile's own lock tones and such.

You should be able to get "in range" indications above the radar screen even if your missile itself isn't tracking. It is all about the range the radar is reading and the mode you are in.
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paulgoodman4 Sep 20, 2021 @ 11:25am 
thx everyone for the replies!
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