Just recieved my X52 pro stick and need some help..

[CatFish 911]

Basically I got a couple well three or four joystick profiles for the P51, and the SU25T, etc. I am a newbie here and did have flight sim 2002 and combat back in the days and used a wingman force feed extreme which bite the dust.

My main question is how do I load the profiles for the X52 pro into the right files for it to be usable? also If I load one and it isnt working right for me do I have to remove it to load one or two others or can I just give it a differnt nake and be able to select it if I want to use it.

I know I will need to do some tweeking as I do not know what button numbers correspond to what buttons on the controller as of yet as I will be picking it up from the post office tomorrow.
I have read and played with how to set up a controller from the tutotials but that did not include how to install pre made profiles.

Any help is greatly appreciated.

My normal e mail is retired_old_sarge(at)yahoo.com in case you want to send me some advice that way .

Thank You Very Much

[CatFish 911]

I understand you dont load them in DCS and you load them in the profiler... but how come they dont work when you go into DCS... none works at all.. just the preloaded stuff which is the very basic I guess... that have a .lua file..

[CatFish 911]

I Have Downloaded some recommended X52 PRO profiles... now what?

I have download some recommended X52 Pro profiles to use with my new X52 Pro controllers... Now What..

I know how to unzip them but I Have no idea where tp put the folder at after I do... exactly step by step on how do I get them to work on my controller in DCS is what I need..

I have searched and searched for the answer for three days and tried a lot of different things people have told me and cannot get anything to work in DCS..

I do have the Saitek programs installed and I do see the icon on my task bar... and it is in a green box... which I understand means it has a profile attached... but when I go into DCS ... nothing is showing in the control box as being loaded and the stick is not working in the game the way it should if it works at all..

Please simple step by step... baby steps as to what I need to do starting with unzipping the folders which I saved on my desk top so I could find them.. Like what file do I put them in , how to load them etc... and do I have to change them or save them as a .LUS file... I have no idea what I am doing..

I may have a new controller for sale... cheap if noone can help me... save 10% off amazon if you pick it up.... hahaha...

[kazereal]

I don't know where you have been to but it does not cost a thing to post on official forums here: http://forums.eagle.ru/

You need to have control binding in DCS options -> controls as well.

I don't know what the Saitek thing does (I don't have it) but that part in DCS is what I was trying to explain in the earlier posts here.

[[GCA] King Apo]

引用自 retired_old_sarge：

PS... YOU NEW PEOPLE... do not try to find out anything on the DCS web site forums... you have to pay them 5 dollars to post a question or ask anything there... such a RIP OFF...they want to sale you stuff but you have to have money as credit before you can ask them anything..

All my whats, are you seriously claiming that EagleDynamics is forcing you to register (for 5 dollars) on their forums for support? (Hint, no!)

edit: First google for Saitek X 52 profiles; http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/10004-x-52-pro-profile-and-guide-by-glodark7/ "C:\Users\Public\Documents\SmartTechnology Profiles" is this the folder you are looking for?

To maybe, maybe, prevent a lot of worrys & tears, why use profiles at all? In DCS you can bind the controls ingame, there are some restrictions (switch states etc.) but generally it's in my opinion the bettter method.

!!! The biggest trouble in setting up DCS controls is getting overwhelmed by the sheer number of important stuff. http://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=135765 <- Chuck has good tutorials for neraly all modules which cover what controls are essential and need to be bound to the controler.

And sorry Sarge I can't hep you with step by step instructions.

[Chameleon_Silk]

I'm really not sure how else to help.

I would abandon the profile for now and just learn the game and the default bindings, as I said before trying to create a profile to control everything is not the right way to do it, only use profiler to do things DCS can't already do.

its not that its the right way because the other way doesn't work, I'm sure someone out there is using profile only setup and DCS default bindings, however they probably sunk more time into getting the thing working then actually flying.

I tried to warn you before you spent days on it, however the profiler does indeed work.... what version of the x52 software are you using? you didn't use the disc driver did you?

[Chameleon_Silk]

also you know that you must be clicking a box on the appropriate column for the device (x52) your mapping for it to actually add the button to the controls.

I've seen many press buttons thinking its not working because they are currently in the keyboard column, which means it will ignore any joystick presses because you are mapping keyboard buttons not the joystick.

highly doubt its something that simple but you seem to be requiring quite a hand hold so might as well throw that in there.

unfourtanetly this is all the help I can provide, best of luck.

[CatFish 911]

Thank you all.. I am really overwelmed withy a lot of this.. My controller is showing up in the DCS section for controllers. I have been trying to losd the right things on it from the menue that shows up there on the left.. I think it says Keyboard...
I did it after I select the plane.. I really get lost trying to figure out what should be loaded there on what button/controller etc.

I have TWo controllers a Joy and a Throttle.. I have not been ab;le to get anything to load on the Throttle stick.. when I select something and then the box open to select button ... nothing happens no matter how many times I keep selecting and moving it.. IE THE MAIN THROTTLE.. I cannot find how to make the game screen smaller so I can really say exactly what I am on trying to do it so I try to remember the titles.. I know to select IE... Saitek Pro Controller colum when I try to load /configure it..

as for as the software I use for the X52 Pro... I downloaded it from the Saitek site which is what was recommended from the posts I read..

I will keep trying... I will also check out the http://forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/10004-x-52-pro-profile-and-guide-by-glodark7/ again to see if I am missing a step there.. Also I am trying to make sure that after I do finally get something loaded and that it works to be able to save it so I dont have to try to configure thisng each time I start to use it.

Thank you all and I really do appreciate the assistance even though I vent a lot about it..

Thanks to you all I wont give up yet... I will come back to try to fly another day...

[fearlessfrog]

Not exactly specific to this topic, but a nice visual guide for DCS control set-up that may help:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nky6dI5kGRk

[Chameleon_Silk]

alright I said I couldn't provide more help but here I am again, make sure you click axis assign..... if its an axis it must be assigned there, for the buttons themselves they should work to be mapped if your clicking in the right column.

try that out and see if you get anything that way.

just to be clear you must select axis assign -> locate where the throttle item is and then dbl click the box, then move the throttle from 0 throttle to 100 throttle and back to 0, it should then pop up in the window.

hang in there man, when I first broke into serious flight simming the sheer number of items to map and stuff to know was terrifying but nowadays it takes me 5 minutes to rebind one of my planes.

I've been very busy with my new born so its hard for me to find time to be on the computer but if I get a chance I will do a video stream of how it works for me (or how it should be working for you) maybe that will help eliminate some of the things that are plaguing your DCS experience ;)

[CatFish 911]

Thank you Fearlessfrog.. I did catch a lot of pointers from your video.. I even managed to go to your you tube page and subscribed .. You have som really good stuff there... Thank You... I know you dont have the X52 Pro but I did learn from you.

and thank you to twitch.. I am not giving up completly.. I just hope people dont get tired of me and give up on me.. LOL... cool,, I know how life can get with a new born... I had five myself.. well wife actually had them... and I now have something like 9 or 10 grandkids from 15 yrs down to 3 years... I know they can keep a person busy...

I saw someone else was just upgrading his stick to a wart hog I think it was... he said he has been using a X52 Pro for many years... I am hoping maybe I can talk him out of some I think it is .LUA files so I can just load them ans that way it can also help me learn how to do it as I actually seet the setting for things on it.

Any way... Thank You Very mush for putting up with me.... one thing I did learn right fast on frogs video... I didnt realise I could scroll in the controll settings to see other things there... Maybe that is why I never did see my throttle listed.. I havent checked again yet but I will..

Thanks for the assistance..

[Chameleon_Silk]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qyB0aKXUzAI

after double clicking throttle both (entry maybe different depending on the plane you are mapping) you don't use the scroll boxes to find the button, you just move the throttle up and down fully back and forth till it fills the button in for you.... no matter how good we are none of us would know what JOY32 is on our x52 and mapping via that method would cause DCS to die out very fast because no one would be able to get controls setup properly without hundreds of attempts :P

you then repeat this step for buttons, this is an example of going to axis assign and assigning the throttle.

I tried to make it as easy to understand, you shouldn't need to load anything nor touch anything in any other column. leave no profile loaded in the Saitek profiler, just work with DCS bindings soley for now..... get you started before you try and create some profile work of art to have everything at your fingertips :P

[CatFish 911]

thank you twitch.. I did stop trying to use the saitec profiler someone else told me to use it.. and now trying to do it all in DCS... Is my throttle suppose to show up here or is it just my joy stick that shows up? I did ask that on a diff post just havent checked it yet. Will check it now.. Thank You

[Chameleon_Silk]

the throttle and stick should be detected as X52 flight controller (all under same column) just as it is in my video.

I'm using x52 non-pro but there should be little difference in how it works.

[CatFish 911]

ok thank you .. I have had to uninstall and reinstall so I will be checking it out later.. I did have another question... When I set up in the control panel and save the settings.. what file do I save them into and when I go into a game how can I load them so I can use them there.. I had problems getting them to work .. It was like when I went in a game such as for P51 the settings were not on my controller anymore..

I have read and tried to find out why but there is so much I couldnt find the answer to what I was or wasnt doing right.

Thanks..

[Chameleon_Silk]

about the profiler: you will still need the drivers installed, which may install the profiler but just ignore it and work only with DCS.

well there is no correct place to save them, you save them where you can remember where you put them like the majority of things you do on the PC... for some thats the default folder or you can do what I do dude and just save the damned things on the root of a drive, never have to worry about what folder they are in because they are on the root, there is no dependancy on where you place the DCS lua binding files.

I seen you mention you couldn't find a file after saving it from a friend, unfourtanetly for you stuff like that is a failure for you to understand how the virtual filing cabinet works and no one can actually tell you where you saved it but yourself! you should try creating a folder on desktop named JUNK or WORKSPACE and then try and always navigate when saving files to that folder that way you can always find the stuff your working with... I use my desktop as a work area which is quite a bit different then the way most ppl use their windows desktops area.

also when you load a profile be sure to click in the correct column first, if you try and load x52 bindings on top of the keyboard column it will blank the column and erase all the bindings for keyboard. so always make sure you are working with the right column before loading and if you mess up just click to restore defaults and begin loading it in again.

for each aircraft I have 3 saved bindings files, one for the x52, one for the Keyboard and one for my rudder pedals, that way if the controls ever get messed up I just go in and single click in the keyboard column into one of the boxes to make it the element im working with, load the keyboard bindings then single click the x52 column and load the x52 saved bindings etc etc

also finally I will say that unplugging and plugging back in the x52 may make the column jump around, see to windows it doesn't actually know if you've plugged the same device back in as each time you plug it in it gets assigned a new deviceID, so always pay attention that the entries for each column are correct.... an example would be I unplug and plug back in my x52 and then I go look and my x52 is now after my rudder pedals which now are wanting to act like they are my x52s, so I must reload the rudder pedal bindings to the column and then reload the x52 into the column that had jumped over 1.

I don't actually recommend saving small files to the root of a boot drive though because it could negatively impact boot up times, but nowadays is that even a problem and like me you will never lose your bindings :P

if you do your bindings from the single player (in game) make sure that after you leave that you go into the controls and save them, as I'm not sure that save and load will work when in game.

goodluck.