t16000 throttle POV joystick not detected by dcs (pic incl)

[DATA]

i cant get dcs to recognize this joystick on the throttle as an input. it IS functioning properly. the press function that acts as a button registers tho.

is this normal? i cant find any info about it online.
how do i bind it to camera POV ingame?

here is the joystick or button that i am talking about https://gyazo.com/81b208330297a9241c1dd201d1fbdaf7

[bingbean]

In DCS is not possible bind analog input as buttons. Analog axes can by bind only in axes section. Some of functionally you can map on axes or on buttons , POV is one of them.
However the analog input is detect absolute in this case, so how much you pull the ministick to the side that much move POV to the left or right. So even if you tune curve and sensitivity it will be super sensitive and probably inposible to use.

[Sizigmund]

It is better to bind this thing to a radar. If you want to bind something to a pilot's view, bind the top ministick of the joystick.

The default binds are:

1. Num 7 - Turn pilot's head up-left.
   
2. Num 4 - Turn pilot's head left.
   
3. Num 1 - Turn pilot's head down-left.
   
4. Num 2 - Turn pilot's head down.
   
5. Num 3 - Turn pilot's head down-right.
   
6. Num 6 - Turn pilot's head right.
   
7. Num 9 - Turn pilot's head up-right.
   
8. Num 8 - Turn pilot's head up.
   
9. Num 5 - Reset pilot's head to the center.

You need to enable the Numlock to use these buttons.
You can enter the game's controls setting and press these buttons in order to find these bindings immediatelly, so you don't need to scroll to find each one of them. Then just bind the joystick's top ministick correspondingly.

Don't forget to choose the right plane from the top-left dropdown list, otherwise you may make bindings for a wrong plane.

[fikmeinshizer]

I have this throttle. The stick on the front counts as an axis not a button. Pressing the stick counts as a button. Hope that helps

[Sizigmund]

Originally posted by fikmeinshizer:

I have this throttle. The stick on the front counts as an axis not a button. Pressing the stick counts as a button. Hope that helps

I didn't knew that the ministick on the throttle is also a button. Thanks.

[jalsina]

I have the X56 Hotas and it has two identical ministicks, one in the joystick and the other in the throttle.
I am currently using the ministick in my X56 joystick to slew the radar acquisition cursor around the screen of the F-16C. It works great for that. Additionally I use the ministick button to uncage a Sidewinder.

I am positive you would be able to do something similar with the ministick in your TWCS throttle.
I have another identical ministick in my X56 throttle, but I don´t have yet a function to use it. I could slew the acquisition cursor with that throttle ministick if I wanted.

P.S. The left wheel in the image can be binded to any axis function. Something like radar elevation slewing.

[fikmeinshizer]

Originally posted by jalsina:

I have the X56 Hotas and it has two identical ministicks, one in the joystick and the other in the throttle.
I am currently using the ministick in my X56 joystick to slew the radar acquisition cursor around the screen of the F-16C. It works great for that. Additionally I use the ministick button to uncage a Sidewinder.

I am positive you would be able to do something similar with the ministick in your TWCS throttle.
I have another identical ministick in my X56 throttle, but I don´t have yet a function to use it. I could slew the acquisition cursor with that throttle ministick if I wanted.

P.S. The left wheel in the image can be binded to any axis function. Something like radar elevation slewing.

Exactly my setup. Wheel is antenna elevation, stick slews the TDC and stick press is acquisition/lock. I use the same setup for both Hornet and Falcon

[jalsina]

Originally posted by fikmeinshizer:

Originally posted by jalsina:

I have the X56 Hotas and it has two identical ministicks, one in the joystick and the other in the throttle.
I am currently using the ministick in my X56 joystick to slew the radar acquisition cursor around the screen of the F-16C. It works great for that. Additionally I use the ministick button to uncage a Sidewinder.

I am positive you would be able to do something similar with the ministick in your TWCS throttle.
I have another identical ministick in my X56 throttle, but I don´t have yet a function to use it. I could slew the acquisition cursor with that throttle ministick if I wanted.

P.S. The left wheel in the image can be binded to any axis function. Something like radar elevation slewing.

Exactly my setup. Wheel is antenna elevation, stick slews the TDC and stick press is acquisition/lock. I use the same setup for both Hornet and Falcon

Do you have any other function for a ministick, no matter what airplane?

[DATA]

OHHHH i see. i can only use "axis assign" and im very limited on choices i can assign for that joysticks axis'.

i didnt find "absolute camera view" option to set the axis too, but oof its waay to sensitive. wonder how to tone it down

[Sizigmund]

Originally posted by DATA:

OHHHH i see. i can only use "axis assign" and im very limited on choices i can assign for that joysticks axis'.

i didnt find "absolute camera view" option to set the axis too, but oof its waay to sensitive. wonder how to tone it down

Click the axis properties on the bottom and add some curves. You can also reduce maximum axis value from 100 to 30 (or whatever else), so it will never get the maximum axeleration when you move it. I have reduced the value for Ka-50's "Shkval", otherwise the camera were moving to fast.

[fikmeinshizer]

Originally posted by jalsina:

Originally posted by fikmeinshizer:

Exactly my setup. Wheel is antenna elevation, stick slews the TDC and stick press is acquisition/lock. I use the same setup for both Hornet and Falcon

Do you have any other function for a ministick, no matter what airplane?

I fly loads of different stuff so I try to keep the controls somewhat similar. I do use it for other stuff though if needs be. A-10 it's the LAAP on/off button. Mosquito it's wing tanks jettison. Tomcat pilot seat it's ICS PTT. At the end of the day it's just a button

[bingbean]

Originally posted by DATA:

OHHHH i see. i can only use "axis assign" and im very limited on choices i can assign for that joysticks axis'.

i didnt find "absolute camera view" option to set the axis too, but oof its waay to sensitive. wonder how to tone it down

As many sugest, just keep this ministick as it is maped by default, so as target marker for radar or TV , depend on plane. In this case it work relatively so you control speed and direction of move the designator and not his absolute location like it is works in POV. Control POV by absolute analog input is good only if you use mouse or some head tracking. Using analog stick is not good option for this, because is hard to hold the stick at some specific point. So if you can't use mouse for it, then is better used to control POV HAT switch on main stick, besauce in this case it works relatively, so you press the hat some direction and the view start turn to this direction some speed. When you release the hat, the view stop at the place. If you want go back to the center position, you need press pov in opposite direction and move the view back (or press center view button). It is much more easy control POV this way, as with absolute analog input from some stick.
You probably planned to use the HAT switch on the main stick for something else, but you can still do that if you use some modifiers.
Before i upgrade the T16000m to the VKB NXT Pro, I had mapped all four directions of the HAT switch on the TWCS throttle as 4 different modifiers and combined them with the HAT switch on the T16000m, so i get this way 5 HATs. No modifier + 4 another with modifiers.

[jalsina]

Originally posted by fikmeinshizer:

Originally posted by jalsina:

Do you have any other function for a ministick, no matter what airplane?

I fly loads of different stuff so I try to keep the controls somewhat similar. I do use it for other stuff though if needs be. A-10 it's the LAAP on/off button. Mosquito it's wing tanks jettison. Tomcat pilot seat it's ICS PTT. At the end of the day it's just a button

With my question, I meant usages for the ministick itself. Not just the button.

[jalsina]

Originally posted by DATA:

OHHHH i see. i can only use "axis assign" and im very limited on choices i can assign for that joysticks axis'.

i didnt find "absolute camera view" option to set the axis too, but oof its waay to sensitive. wonder how to tone it down

You can use the wheels for something like "view zooming" or another type of viewing, trimming or even knobs turning. There are plenty of possible axis usages:
- In the F-16C there are about 60 possible usages.
- In the Mirage 2000C there are about 40.
- In a FC3 non fidelity aircraft like the F-15, there nearly 30.
- In the TF-51D (free), the closer I have right now to the WWII airplanes, there are about 40 axis.

[DATA]

Originally posted by jalsina:

Originally posted by DATA:

OHHHH i see. i can only use "axis assign" and im very limited on choices i can assign for that joysticks axis'.

i didnt find "absolute camera view" option to set the axis too, but oof its waay to sensitive. wonder how to tone it down

You can use the wheels for something like "view zooming" or another type of viewing, trimming or even knobs turning. There are plenty of possible axis usages:
- In the F-16C there are about 60 possible usages.
- In the Mirage 2000C there are about 40.
- In a FC3 non fidelity aircraft like the F-15, there nearly 30.
- In the TF-51D (free), the closer I have right now to the WWII airplanes, there are about 40 axis.

ahh i only fly the huey atm and dont plan on branching

[jalsina]

Take a look in the Huey bindings listing. Almost everything you have in Axis can be binded to wheels and a few of them to ministicks.