Binding Joystick thumbstick to Camera View Axis

[sebo]

I'd like to use my virpil mini thumbstick to look around, like the camera movement when using the mouse xyz axis. the game won't let me bind anything when i select the Camera Horizontal/Vertical view. why have this option then not be able to bind any function except only for mouse axis? see this image[i.imgur.com].

also, do i really have to change the keybinds for every single aircraft? is there a way to have a global profile or something? kind of new to this game and a bit overwhelmed with having to alter every single aircraft's bind settings.

[Emme]

Make a double click in that box with the "???" and in the next window you will be able to select the input device and which axis you want to use manually!

[sebo]

That would be the obvious thing to do, but it doesn't do anything. it will only let me bind the mouse axis for Camera View, and pops up the "No command available for this device" tooltip when i double click the joystick input field.

I did a bit of searching and it appears you CAN'T bind a joystick thumb axis to the Camera View and you must use a third party app to have the joystick thumbstick mimic mouse movement xyz axis.. is this true?

[Noobiecanoobie]

I've never been able to bind a joystick axis to the external camera to rotate / pan around. There are a few input options including some 'absolute' labeled ones. They have no effect when I try binding axes.

If you do find a solution, please post back.

[Emme]

Originally posted by sebo:

I did a bit of searching and it appears you CAN'T bind a joystick thumb axis to the Camera View and you must use a third party app to have the joystick thumbstick mimic mouse movement xyz axis.. is this true?

No that's def not true. Many people do use their POV hats or analogue inputs to look around in DCS. I did it myself when starting DCS as I did not have any head tracking solution.

Sorry, I don't know your stick, but make sure that the input you want to bind is an analogue input and not just a POV hat! Because, if you are trying to bind a POV hat with axis commands that is not going to work.

If you're not sure just try to switch from "axis" tab to the "general" controls tab and look for the sight functions that are generally bound to the num keys "8,6,4,2" to look "up, down, left and right" and try to bind these commands instead!

[Noobiecanoobie]

Originally posted by Emme:

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If you're not sure just try to switch from "axis" tab to the "general" controls tab and look for the sight functions that are generally bound to the num keys "8,6,4,2" to look "up, down, left and right" and try to bind these commands instead!

Those 8 direction View options in the non-axis control section are not present in the axis controls.

Can you please show what analog axes you have bound to control your view?

I expect if they are analog, you should be able to verify by pressing your stick axis a little or a lot to slowly or rapidly move the camera. You should also see your non-axis view bindings bound to something other than your stick which may have axis-to-button conversion enabled.

[Emme]

Again, I think what the OP and you are doing wrong is trying to bind axis commands to a 8-way POV hat switch, which won't work, because POV hats are buttons and not analoge inputs.

In short: analoge inputs = axis commands / POV hat switches = buttons.

So you need to bind the buttons to look around instead of trying to set up axis. At least that's what I'm guessing although I don't know in detail what sticks you guys are using and what switches and analog inputs they have.

Anyways, if you're trying to set up analoge inputs it should work exactly how I described in my first post. At least if the stick is calibrated and working correctly you should be able to select the stick's various axis when doing a double click in the axis controls tab.

Besides that I'm running track ir nowadays, so I don't use analoge stick or a POV hat switch to look around anymore.

[Noobiecanoobie]

There's no mistaking POV / Buttons with stick axes for me. I can bind the analog mini stick to any other available axis and observe it working in game as well as seeing the current value displayed in the axis control panel.

I can bind mini stick axes to eg. Absolute Camera Horizontal View or Absolute Camera Shift Horizontal View. This works, but only rotates or moves the cockpit camera, not the external camera / view in question.

As the OP said, the Camera Horizontal View and related inputs are greyed out and reserved for the Mouse and Head Tracker, double clicking has no effect to assign a device axis to it.

Google and forum search shows >10 years of this question being asked and answered in the negative. A few examples eg.

Using a Joystick Axis to change Horizontal & Vertical View?
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/44928-using-a-joystick-axis-to-change-horizontal-amp-vertical-view/

External camera control axis
https://forum.dcs.world/topic/346311-external-camera-control-axis/

Cant assign any Axis to camera control in DCS
https://www.reddit.com/r/hoggit/comments/6k5owu/cant_assign_any_axis_to_camera_control_in_dcs/