Targeting an object with the Helmet mounted display.

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Sorry to bother you guys again, but I am having trouble making my HMD the SOI, so that I can use it to select a target where I'm looking in the F-16. I have been following a tutorial, and it says to hold down the R-ALT key along with the TDS cursor up button for 0.5 secs, but when I do this for the most part it doesn't work. I have gotten it to work a few times, but not sure what I did to get it to working, as it seems random. I have the plane in AG mode and master arm turned on along with the laser. Also, I verify that the HUD is the SOI with the asterisk before trying to make the HMD the SOI.

Any suggestions?

Thanks

[Gunfreak]

To make the helmet soi. You
Make the hud soi, then look away so you get the helmet. Then long press TMS up.

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Originally posted by Gunfreak:

To make the helmet soi. You
Make the hud soi, then look away so you get the helmet. Then long press TMS up.

Thank you, however I still can't get to work. I see in my control's menu that target management switch is set to R-CTRL and up arrow. However, even when I hold this down for a few seconds, it doesn't work. I have also tried holding down the soi switch up button, which is R-ALT and the colon key. Also, I have the HUD so as indicated by the asterisk in the upper left corner.

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by F-16 Pilot:

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

To make the helmet soi. You
Make the hud soi, then look away so you get the helmet. Then long press TMS up.

Thank you, however I still can't get to work. I see in my control's menu that target management switch is set to R-CTRL and up arrow. However, even when I hold this down for a few seconds, it doesn't work. I have also tried holding down the soi switch up button, which is R-ALT and the colon key. Also, I have the HUD so as indicated by the asterisk in the upper left corner.

I have no idea how it works with a keyboard. DCS is ment to be played with a Joystick at a minimum. And for a modern aircraft you need as many buttons as possible.

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Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Originally posted by F-16 Pilot:

Thank you, however I still can't get to work. I see in my control's menu that target management switch is set to R-CTRL and up arrow. However, even when I hold this down for a few seconds, it doesn't work. I have also tried holding down the soi switch up button, which is R-ALT and the colon key. Also, I have the HUD so as indicated by the asterisk in the upper left corner.

I have no idea how it works with a keyboard. DCS is meant to be played with a Joystick at a minimum. And for a modern aircraft, you need as many buttons as possible.

I actually do have a joystick and have the TMS switch up to a button on my throttle. But it still didn't work. I use a mix of keyboard and joystick controls.

[Gunfreak]

Have you tried this tutorial?
https://youtu.be/2zbswjLtTyo?si=sPPA3j5EJ_Cwy1Ib

Or this

https://youtu.be/91tVJA5c8i4?si=M1V3GMCrUbkrC4QM

[mosshunt]

think its boresight mode, TMS Up

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Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Have you tried this tutorial?
https://youtu.be/2zbswjLtTyo?si=sPPA3j5EJ_Cwy1Ib

Or this

https://youtu.be/91tVJA5c8i4?si=M1V3GMCrUbkrC4QM

Yes, I watched both Tutorials and like I said, I can get it to work sometimes, but it just seems random, as when I try the same things again it doesn't always work. I actually took a couple of screenshots so you can see the configuration my plane is in and whether I am doing something wrong.

https://imgur.com/a/qTqf3Pv

[Stynemeier]

I believe it has something to do with the mode the selected weapon is in. Not sure if CCRP supports designating via HUD/JHMCS in the F-16, but it should work in DTOS, which is what I like to use when I find targets of opportunity.

If DTOS is not available, VIS mode for JDAMs and WCMDs, as well as Mavericks works pretty much the same. DMS up to set HUD as SOI, then , TMS up long to "snap" reticule to center of JHMCS, TMS up to lock. TMS down to unlock.

Remember sometimes locking something in the HUD will make another Sensor SOI, like your TGP, so make sure if you want to, say, recenter your maverick after a failed attack run you might need to press DMS up again to make your HUD SOI, then TMS down to recenter.

If you insist on using CCRP, you can designate a markpoint, using the MARK button (7 on the UCP) and following the procedure. Designating a Markpoint also works via HUD and, more importantly, the JHMCS. Then set Markpoint as active steerpoint and use CCRP to deliver.

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Originally posted by Stynemeier:

I believe it has something to do with the mode the selected weapon is in. Not sure if CCRP supports designating via HUD/JHMCS in the F-16, but it should work in DTOS, which is what I like to use when I find targets of opportunity.

If DTOS is not available, VIS mode for JDAMs and WCMDs, as well as Mavericks works pretty much the same. DMS up to set HUD as SOI, then , TMS up long to "snap" reticule to center of JHMCS, TMS up to lock. TMS down to unlock.

Remember sometimes locking something in the HUD will make another Sensor SOI, like your TGP, so make sure if you want to, say, recenter your maverick after a failed attack run you might need to press DMS up again to make your HUD SOI, then TMS down to recenter.

If you insist on using CCRP, you can designate a markpoint, using the MARK button (7 on the UCP) and following the procedure. Designating a Markpoint also works via HUD and, more importantly, the JHMCS. Then set Markpoint as active steerpoint and use CCRP to deliver.

Thank you, I will try it again, but I'm pretty sure I tried turning the weapon to DTOS and got it to work once. But when I tried it again, it didn't work.'

Edit: So I was able to get it to work by switching to DTOS and selected a target. What else do I need to do to launch a bomb? I assume it linked with the weapon's release key, which I have set to my joystick, but it won't fire. I think I am using the GBU-24 laser guided bombs.

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by F-16 Pilot:

Originally posted by Stynemeier:

I believe it has something to do with the mode the selected weapon is in. Not sure if CCRP supports designating via HUD/JHMCS in the F-16, but it should work in DTOS, which is what I like to use when I find targets of opportunity.

If DTOS is not available, VIS mode for JDAMs and WCMDs, as well as Mavericks works pretty much the same. DMS up to set HUD as SOI, then , TMS up long to "snap" reticule to center of JHMCS, TMS up to lock. TMS down to unlock.

Remember sometimes locking something in the HUD will make another Sensor SOI, like your TGP, so make sure if you want to, say, recenter your maverick after a failed attack run you might need to press DMS up again to make your HUD SOI, then TMS down to recenter.

If you insist on using CCRP, you can designate a markpoint, using the MARK button (7 on the UCP) and following the procedure. Designating a Markpoint also works via HUD and, more importantly, the JHMCS. Then set Markpoint as active steerpoint and use CCRP to deliver.

Thank you, I will try it again, but I'm pretty sure I tried turning the weapon to DTOS and got it to work once. But when I tried it again, it didn't work.'

Edit: So I was able to get it to work by switching to DTOS and selected a target. What else do I need to do to launch a bomb? I assume it linked with the weapon's release key, which I have set to my joystick, but it won't fire. I think I am using the GBU-24 laser guided bombs.

To drop GBUs you need a Tpod, arm the laser, get a point track with the Tpod

You need to be in CCRP mode, or the tpod won't even work right. Once you have a point track, you'll get a bomb line, you fly towards it. And you'll get various info like time to drop. At 10 seconds out, hold the pickle button and the bomb drops at the correct time. The F16 should auto lase.

https://youtu.be/mBmhopVNCcU?si=xed3_G8s8eiwFp75

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Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Originally posted by F-16 Pilot:

Thank you, I will try it again, but I'm pretty sure I tried turning the weapon to DTOS and got it to work once. But when I tried it again, it didn't work.'

Edit: So I was able to get it to work by switching to DTOS and selected a target. What else do I need to do to launch a bomb? I assume it linked with the weapon's release key, which I have set to my joystick, but it won't fire. I think I am using the GBU-24 laser guided bombs.

To drop GBUs you need a Tpod, arm the laser, get a point track with the Tpod

You need to be in CCRP mode, or the tpod won't even work right. Once you have a point track, you'll get a bomb line, you fly towards it. And you'll get various info like time to drop. At 10 seconds out, hold the pickle button and the bomb drops at the correct time. The F16 should auto lase.

https://youtu.be/mBmhopVNCcU?si=xed3_G8s8eiwFp75

So I did have the AAQ-28 TP loaded on the plane. But not sure what I need to do to enable it, as it say TGP off when I go to the TGP page, even in CCRP. I looked at the targeting pod and the camera was pointed inward even though I had a target selected with the HMD.