WinWing Orion 2 ("T2 THROTTLE II") - 4 devices? SImAppPro? MESS!

[sergio.e.samayoa]

I finally got a WinWing T2 Hotas plus F16 joystick.
The hardware seems OK and I just did some quick flights.
After initial excitement I went to the controls configuration and... surprise!

HOTAS is 4 times!

I figure that perhaps I need SimAppPro so I installed but when it starts simply hanged!

I finally got it not hang at startup, it updated to new version but then the freaking program opened for few seconds then exit. I decided to rollback to previous version, uninstalled but when I try to install again it failed. I tried again but now the installer does nothingf.

What a MESS!

I tried "Customer Service" but is totally user unfriendly and unresponsive!

BOTTOM LINE:
Look like I'm on my own. Lucky seems that I can configure from DCS finding in which of the 4 devices the desired button is, slow and unfriendly but at lest I can.
THE QUESTION:
What is you own experience with such device?

Additional info:
Forget about complaining to any government agency, I'm in 3rd world country :(

[Gunfreak]

Winwing seems to be made specifically with DCS in mind, and so stuff like IL2 comes just as an after thought. I've never gotten my winwing or virpil stuff to work right with IL2.

[Xupicor]

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Winwing seems to be made specifically with DCS in mind, and so stuff like IL2 comes just as an after thought. I've never gotten my winwing or virpil stuff to work right with IL2.

Wait, why? Do you need help with that? I did set up stuff for IL-2 (though didn't play much) and I have both Virpil and WW stuff over here.

First thing is -- IL-2 only sees first 8 controllers, so you have to either reorder them or unplug/hide the extra devices you don't need. I used HidHide to just hide MFDs and stuff I didn't need.

Second, with WW you have middle positions on switches that are an actual button. That's often pretty useful in DCS. IL-2 controls management is badly coded as it doesn't just register inputs when the button is pressed but also (or maybe "only") when it's released. WW 1-1-1 or 1-1 switch will have one input going on and another going off when you move the switch and that confuses IL-2 to no end. You can just try to bind it multiple times making sure the button numbers make sense and do it that way -- or use WinWing's software to just disable the middle positions of 1-1-1 switches. That will fix those for you.

With 1-1 switches you have to do them in reverse order, most of the time that works because of what I wrote before - IL-2 will register on "button_up" kind of event, so just bind stuff of a 1-1 switch the other way around and it should be ok. Because of how the switches are built sometimes the order of the events is reversed... You have to try a couple of times and test immediately in-game to be sure it's bound correctly.

It's annoying, because there's nothing wrong with the hardware -- it's IL-2 coding that's ass.

Feel free to DM me if you want to set that stuff up together sometime. It wouldn't be a problem.