VR vs Monitor

[RadarLuv]

I'm looking at getting either a head set or monitor, but not sure what to get. My question for anyone who uses VR do you wear prescription glasses and if so what headset do you use and how is it with your prescription. For monitors what do you use, I have a 27in. BenQ with 2560x1440 but I want to get bigger monitor with higher resolution. All input muchly appreciated. I have RTX 4080 with a i9-12900k cpu and 32gb ram

[Gunfreak]

I fly VR exclusively, I use the G2.
I don't use glasses.
No VR headset will give you as good a clarity as a big 4k screen (except possibly the $2000 pimax Crystal)

[Insônia]

i use VR with glasses. Some VR headset have enough room allow you wear VR over your glasses. Not very comfortable tho.
Some services provide frame and lens based on your prescription, can embed into the headset, usually quite expensive.
I download and print 3d frame from internet frame to save some money. Lens was grind by the glass shop then glue to the frame.
With proper prescription lens you can see each pixel crystal clear in headset.

DCS was using a technique called "imposter shader" render far away objects as small pixel blobs. Shader rasterisation is direct related to resolution and dpi. "imposter shader" can't render with same quality and distance in VR . That's why lots people say they can't see objects far enough even they have perfect vision.

VR provide immersive and natural head tracking the best custom cockpit build can't compare.
2D monitor have much lower latency and pixel density is still go to solution to anyone that play PvP and very competitive.

[ZeroReady]

Keep in mind that with the way dcs scales other jets and vehicles at distance, a higher resolution will mean it will be much harder to spot targets. You will almost never see anything but a dot at 4k unless you're within a mile. stick with 1920x1080. I wish I had not gotten 2560x1440.

[Maki Nishikino]

I have an HP Reverb G2 and a 49" SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 5120x1440p @ 240Hz. I personally don't play in VR all that much. I prefer to use TrackIR5 with my monitor.

i9-13900K / RTX 4090 / 64GB RAM / PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD

[RadarLuv]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

I have an HP Reverb G2 and a 49" SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 5120x1440p @ 240Hz. I personally don't play in VR all that much. I prefer to use TrackIR5 with my monitor.

i9-13900K / RTX 4090 / 64GB RAM / PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD

I was looking at a 45" LG curved with 240hz.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by RadarLuv>XI<:

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

I have an HP Reverb G2 and a 49" SAMSUNG Odyssey G9 5120x1440p @ 240Hz. I personally don't play in VR all that much. I prefer to use TrackIR5 with my monitor.

i9-13900K / RTX 4090 / 64GB RAM / PCIe Gen 4 NVMe M.2 SSD

I was looking at a 45" LG curved with 240hz.

I think it would be worth it. I really like how wide it is as it works well with TrackIR.

[Spiderman4000]

I would get both, the VR is a must if you want the feeling of being in a cockpit and dog fighting. You can track your enemy very easy in VR. The problem is blurry text and motion sickness, it is the same with motion blur in games - yuk. I do not suffer from it from air sims but i cannot play vr on the ground, i just get sick. A monitor is great for resolution and quick response time, plus the bigger the monitor the more you see. If you want to get track ir that will work as well for you. I never liked it much, as it never worked with me. If VR got perfect clarity with no blurring of text it will be a game changer. Oh they are heavy and hot. I wear glasses just get glasses spacer off amazon. To cool myself down i put a fan round my neck, again off amazon. I have oculass one the strap is too tight with my glasses on and it hurts so i just unstrap the sides and its ok. I can play for a long time as well. Oh and eye strain, if you are not used to it, it can give you headaches. That will go away the more you use it. I would suggest short bursts. i have tobii eye tracker 4c what a piece of junk. The tobi comes with a very short usb cable so it is impossible to connect it to the pc and monitor. i reached out to tobi they told me to bog off. Oh and you cannot use a usb extension cable. Also if you have a curve monitor you will have to get a special mount which will cost £19.99. Oh and if the screen is bigger than 27 inches the tobii will not work.

[MobstrLobstr]

G2 for me as well. You need a top tier system or you will get eyestrain / nausea. Once I started using 4k VR, I can't go back to flat screen, it's that good. However, VR really only shines if you set up voice commands, and have a high end HOTAS setup for immersion. Hand tracking is also available, but i've heard it's quirky and not currently a good fit with DCS.

[ShadowDoggie]

both bad performance, don't even bother getting into dcs, its a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ when it comes to performance, and they will never fix it.

[Spiderman4000]

Originally posted by MobstrLobstr:

G2 for me as well. You need a top tier system or you will get eyestrain / nausea. Once I started using 4k VR, I can't go back to flat screen, it's that good. However, VR really only shines if you set up voice commands, and have a high end HOTAS setup for immersion. Hand tracking is also available, but i've heard it's quirky and not currently a good fit with DCS.

You will get eye strain regardless of system, its nothing to do with what pc you have but the type of vr head set, 99% are very blurry for text, so if you want to go vr in plane it will be hard. The prism vr head set is supposed to be offering clear text and resolution but it costs £1600.

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by Spiderman4000:

Originally posted by MobstrLobstr:

G2 for me as well. You need a top tier system or you will get eyestrain / nausea. Once I started using 4k VR, I can't go back to flat screen, it's that good. However, VR really only shines if you set up voice commands, and have a high end HOTAS setup for immersion. Hand tracking is also available, but i've heard it's quirky and not currently a good fit with DCS.

You will get eye strain regardless of system, its nothing to do with what pc you have but the type of vr head set, 99% are very blurry for text, so if you want to go vr in plane it will be hard. The prism vr head set is supposed to be offering clear text and resolution but it costs £1600.

I've been flying exclusively with the G2 for over 2 years, there's no eye strain, no problem reading texts. A few times like in the F14 you might need to zoom in a bit for the small text stuff. But then many zoom in cockpit when flying with monitors too.

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by THE BATMAN:

I skipped the HP Rev G2 for a Monitor WITH Trackir 5. I can wait for a new HP Rev G3 or something similar in a near future.

My monitor now is the GIGABYTE 32" 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 144Hz SS IPS Gaming Monitor 1ms Adaptive Sync Compatible. There is another for a lower prize ---> GIGABYTE 28" 4K UHD 3840 x 2160, 144Hz SS IPS Gaming Monitor, 1ms, FreeSync Premium Pro.

HP is pulling out of VR, so no G3.
Pimax Crystal seems to be the next sim VR headset King. Sadly its 3+ times the price of the G2

[MobstrLobstr]

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Originally posted by THE BATMAN:

I skipped the HP Rev G2 for a Monitor WITH Trackir 5. I can wait for a new HP Rev G3 or something similar in a near future.

My monitor now is the GIGABYTE 32" 4K UHD 3840 x 2160 144Hz SS IPS Gaming Monitor 1ms Adaptive Sync Compatible. There is another for a lower prize ---> GIGABYTE 28" 4K UHD 3840 x 2160, 144Hz SS IPS Gaming Monitor, 1ms, FreeSync Premium Pro.

HP is pulling out of VR, so no G3.
Pimax Crystal seems to be the next sim VR headset King. Sadly its 3+ times the price of the G2

I'm content with my current setup, but the prospect of a 2k headset plus a 2k video card to drive it is frightening. I mean I have a life outside of gaming.

[william]

I have a quest 2 but I can't play at high rez but I'm still very happy with it, 36 fps looks fine to me, I can even go lower and I can deal with it. I didn't like the glasses spacer it came with so I got something called Lens Anti-Scratch Ring Protecting Myopia Glasses, it allows my eyes to be much closer to the view feels bigger but the ones they sell look a bit different to mine, mine has a little flap on one corner I guess to push your glasses away. I can generally read the gauges and labels but it will be more pixelated because your eyes are closer to the image, you can just lean forward anyway. View is a bit limited in that it almost feels like looking through binoculars but I don't know how it compares to others. Facebook integration is annoying, I was locked out of all my apps because I used a fake facebook name but was somehow able to get it back but the fear is I could lose access again, they are not really upfront about that aspect. After a while I had streaming issues, I brought virtual desktop and it basically fixed everything. I really don't like having a cable even when sitting down, wireless is worth it even if it affects the image. IL2 also works really great too.

[Tundr4]

some companies craft fixed mounts with the exact number you need, to attach lenses inside your headset. It´s medium budget , but it allows you to fit you need of glasses for VR.
Other users just get a cheap, small reading pair of glasses, to wear those while wearing the vr headset as well.
with your rtx 4080 you can get decent vr quality image, I would go for it.
I have been flying VR DCS since more than 5 years ago.
Playing DCS in a monitor is a different, worse thing. Nothing compares to VR.