DCS World Steam Edition

DCS World Steam Edition

LukeHams 2023 年 2 月 7 日 上午 3:45
Who uses VR with DCS?
Looking into getting DCS want to use a VR setup. What does everyone use?
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I use a quest 2 and it's great but currently VR performance in DCS (for me ymmv) isn't great.

I'm waiting for the engine upgrades to jump back in.
Xupicor 2023 年 2 月 7 日 上午 7:49 
I'm using G2, PointCTRL (+mouse), pedals, hotas, etc. I don't use the VR controllers.

In OpenXR it's OK. Hope future performance updates will make it even better, but it was always a tough cookie to run in VR.
james7347 2023 年 2 月 7 日 上午 8:53 
I use a Vive pro 2 HOTAS and pedals. Outstanding image although you need a strong PC for frame rates.
½Pete 2023 年 2 月 7 日 上午 9:53 
Track Ir 5 >>>>> VR headset
Gunfreak 2023 年 2 月 7 日 上午 10:32 
I use VR exclusively, it's fantastic. I refuse to fly any flight sim without it.
Depending on headset and computer your experience might be easy, or hard to get a decent experience. Multi-threading seems to be right around the corner and will probably help either some or a lot for vr users
LukeHams 2023 年 2 月 7 日 下午 12:00 
引用自 Gunfreak
I use VR exclusively, it's fantastic. I refuse to fly any flight sim without it.
Depending on headset and computer your experience might be easy, or hard to get a decent experience. Multi-threading seems to be right around the corner and will probably help either some or a lot for vr users
Oh thats brilliant mate. What headset do you use?
Gunfreak 2023 年 2 月 7 日 下午 12:04 
引用自 LukeHams
引用自 Gunfreak
I use VR exclusively, it's fantastic. I refuse to fly any flight sim without it.
Depending on headset and computer your experience might be easy, or hard to get a decent experience. Multi-threading seems to be right around the corner and will probably help either some or a lot for vr users
Oh thats brilliant mate. What headset do you use?

I use Reverb G2. The only mid priced headset left. But rumours say HP is pulling out of VR, so soon you'll either have to buy those stand alone headsets like Quest 2 or Pico 2. Or go to $1500+ headsets.
Gracey Face 2023 年 2 月 9 日 上午 8:38 
I use an index and have a 12900ks and a 3090Ti. I get 40-80 fps in singleplayer with all graphics settings maxed and 30-40fps in multiplayer. It's pretty nice. I would recommend a reverb or a pimax or a vive pro 2 over an index though, they're all better in terms of visual capabilities of the headset.

One thing to note about VR though is that because you have little peripheral vision and turning your actual eyes doesn't accomplish much checking your 6 is a bit of a pain in the lower back. You have to twist yourself much more than you really should.
MobstrLobstr 2023 年 2 月 12 日 上午 6:38 
I love DCS VR, it's the difference between flying a plane and watching a movie of flying a plane. I use a G2 4k headset, with a 5800x and 3080. Headset is max 90 fps, which you won't get close to unless you have a 4090 for 4k. I am getting 45+ usually, unless the sim engine slams the CPU.

G2 uses a fresnel lens system, looks great in center, blurry toward the edges. The comment about peripheral vision is very true because you really have to twist your head around to get a clear view of an object.

Another thing is that even with 4k, you really notice a lack of fine detail past a few hundred yards. Your cockpit is superb, and then you look outside. :( The latest vive pro has maybe 12% better pixel density, not really a worthwhile upgrade. The Varjo is significantly better, and uses a different lens system that is clearer around the edges, but that a different price tier and you would definitely need a 4090 for that.
MobstrLobstr 2023 年 2 月 12 日 上午 7:06 
A hotas setup is needed, with mouse support. The VR control wands work with the clickable cockpits, but are clumsy and erratic. I use voice attack for voice commands. I couldn't do VR without it.

I use the thrustmaster TWCS throttle. Lots of options, plus a rudder bar, which works fine.

I would consider upgrading to the warthog system, but how does feeling around blindly on the warthog throttle to use the base controls work out in VR?
Eskander 2023 年 2 月 12 日 上午 7:10 
Even with a 4090, VR performance is not where it should be. This is a fairly old engine, and we've yet to see it tap the GPU the way it needs to for keeping current with VR performance and GPU advances. Up for debate, but recent patches seem to have caused additional issues with shadows on VR. I used to enjoy fairly decent performance in VR, but now it is a struggle, even with a 4090.

I've edited the settings to make it work, but fixed wing at fast speeds could use more frames. Rotary is still great, though (depending on map).

That said, VR in this game is something to behold -- I will not play this without VR.

Give a big thought to peripherals, though, as VR is limiting on how you interface physically. Voice attack + Gunfighter MCG + Mongoos T50CM3 + trackball mouse velcroed to the side of my throttle base has worked well for me.
james7347 2023 年 2 月 12 日 上午 7:23 
引用自 MobstrLobstr
I love DCS VR, it's the difference between flying a plane and watching a movie of flying a plane. I use a G2 4k headset, with a 5800x and 3080. Headset is max 90 fps, which you won't get close to unless you have a 4090 for 4k. I am getting 45+ usually, unless the sim engine slams the CPU.

G2 uses a fresnel lens system, looks great in center, blurry toward the edges. The comment about peripheral vision is very true because you really have to twist your head around to get a clear view of an object.

Another thing is that even with 4k, you really notice a lack of fine detail past a few hundred yards. Your cockpit is superb, and then you look outside. :( The latest vive pro has maybe 12% better pixel density, not really a worthwhile upgrade. The Varjo is significantly better, and uses a different lens system that is clearer around the edges, but that a different price tier and you would definitely need a 4090 for that.


引用自 MobstrLobstr
A hotas setup is needed, with mouse support. The VR control wands work with the clickable cockpits, but are clumsy and erratic. I use voice attack for voice commands. I couldn't do VR without it.

I use the thrustmaster TWCS throttle. Lots of options, plus a rudder bar, which works fine.

I would consider upgrading to the warthog system, but how does feeling around blindly on the warthog throttle to use the base controls work out in VR?


引用自 Eskander
Even with a 4090, VR performance is not where it should be. This is a fairly old engine, and we've yet to see it tap the GPU the way it needs to for keeping current with VR performance and GPU advances. Up for debate, but recent patches seem to have caused additional issues with shadows on VR. I used to enjoy fairly decent performance in VR, but now it is a struggle, even with a 4090.

I've edited the settings to make it work, but fixed wing at fast speeds could use more frames. Rotary is still great, though (depending on map).

That said, VR in this game is something to behold -- I will not play this without VR.

Give a big thought to peripherals, though, as VR is limiting on how you interface physically. Voice attack + Gunfighter MCG + Mongoos T50CM3 + trackball mouse velcroed to the side of my throttle base has worked well for me.

Could not put it any better.
sharedgiraffe55 2023 年 2 月 12 日 上午 8:00 
i have a 3060 and a quest 2 and i run medium graphics on dcs and have no problems and now i cant physically play dcs on flat screen ive played in vr on dcs for almost 1000 hours and only ever had one issue which was a hardware issue and easily fixed
Onno 2023 年 2 月 13 日 上午 11:59 
Works well if you turn down your graphics settings to potato level. But to be honest, the HMDs still have a lot of improvement to go before they become nearly as good as 2D screens in terms of display quality and ergonomics. I stopped using my G2 because the drop in performance and visual quality was not worth it to me and I could not get used to the cable and controllers. Maybe in ~5 years or so things will have become better. Until then I'm sticking to 2D.
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Xupicor 2023 年 2 月 13 日 下午 2:04 
Controllers? Why use controllers? ;) You don't have to drop to potato settings - but in order to "not have to" you have to have a beefed up PC. 3080 gets you places, 4090 gets you there faster. It's a fair few thousands to get a nice VR experience in DCS. And then, half a year later you get another big patch and performance drops. ;)

Fingers crossed for VR DLSS and multithreading getting us there in a few years.

In the meantime - I'm doing fine with pretty high settings on G2 and 3080.
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