WinWing combat&takeoff panels problems

[Estuans Interius]

Hello guys!
I posted two bug reports about WinWing button in-game recognition (in P-47 & I-16), and have got no feedback, so more general questions:
Does anybody own it and have no troubles?
Has this device ever been tested in DCS world?

[Troll Norris]

DCS:World supports all devices with DirectInput API.
When you have too much devices, check the horisontal scroll bar on the bottom of controls options screen.

Check that you have downloaded latest drivers, firmware, SIMAPP PRO, e.t.c..

[Gunfreak]

Never had a problem with any of my winwing stuff and DCS. Il2 on the other hand doesn't like winwing at all.

[®~V3T~©™]

I have the crp, getting top 12/1

[Estuans Interius]

Originally posted by Troll Norris:

DCS:World supports all devices with DirectInput API.
When you have too much devices, check the horisontal scroll bar on the bottom of controls options screen.

Check that you have downloaded latest drivers, firmware, SIMAPP PRO, e.t.c..

Updated firmware today via SimApp... And it's all the same... I mean strange DCS World behaviour with pushbuttons. Specifically, I'm talking about AA/AG, CTR, L0, R0, L1, R1 buttons. They work in F-18 and dont trigger at all in some other modules I played: Su-27, P-47, I-16. Other switches work fine. This is super wierd.

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Never had a problem with any of my winwing stuff and DCS. Il2 on the other hand doesn't like winwing at all.

Could you test that those pushbuttons work for other modules like P-47 or Flaming Cliffs?

[Troll Norris]

Try to plug device in different USB. If you have powered external USB hub, try to plug device into it. Some devices eats bit more power. In total the USB bus in PC can have problems to supply USB devices with enough power.

[Estuans Interius]

Originally posted by Troll Norris:

Try to plug device in different USB. If you have powered external USB hub, try to plug device into it. Some devices eats bit more power. In total the USB bus in PC can have problems to supply USB devices with enough power.

No no no, device is working all the time in the sense of that game could read it. But it reads mentioned plastic pushbuttons only in settings screen, not in flight. And most strangely, game reads these pushbuttons in flight if I add MOD key, like "Right control+AA WinWing button" suddenly worked on P-47.
I guess only developer of DCS controls subsystem could explain and fix this behaviour.

[Troll Norris]

Make sure you assign controls properly.

First of all, many addons have different assigns for game avionics mode. The game avionics mode is turned on in gameplay options menu.

For example in controls options menu you can see "F/A-18C Game" and "F/A-18C sim"
The "game" is for game mode and "sim" is for sim mode. As I wrote, the game mode is acivated by "game flight mode" and "game avionics mode" checkboxes.

The modifiers:

In DCS:World modifier window you can see two tables.
The left table called "modifier" are triggers which are active only when you press and hold the modifier button

The right table "switches" works the on/off way. Press button to turn on modifier. Press button again to turn off modifier.

Make sure all this is set properly. Also I suggest to check "no force from mission, use mine" preset in gameplay options menu.

[Estuans Interius]

Originally posted by Troll Norris:

Make sure you assign controls properly.

100% sure.

Originally posted by Troll Norris:

Also I suggest to check "no force from mission, use mine" preset in gameplay options menu.

It was already ON.

One more experiment: WinWing plugged into dedicated PC usb slot. Unlike before it was USB hub for 5 ports.
Switched "Encoder interval time" in SimApp to max 200ms.
WWing single CTR pushbutton still doesnt work in game mode in SU-27 (was assigned to turn power on in SU-27, which is shift+L by default) Only triggered in control settings page.
Then I added "left ctrl" MOD to CTR, and it started to work magically (in control page and in game too).

So I think "interval" setting or USB are not the reason why buttons were not scanned by DCS in game mode, it is something else in controls subsystem.

Questions to devs:
1) if it works in control settings mode. why does not work in game (this is most obvious question)
2) If it works with MODifier, why DCS could not read single CTR pushbutton? (and also LO,RO,LI,RI,A/A,A/G from WinWing Combat panel)
3) Why mentioned pushbuttons work only in F-18 and not in some other planes? (Su27, I-16, P-47)

[Estuans Interius]

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Never had a problem with any of my winwing stuff and DCS. Il2 on the other hand doesn't like winwing at all.

Haha, I've checked each plastic button in "Il2 Stalingrand" - LO,RO,LI,RI,A/A,A/G. And my WinWing specimen from Aliexpress works fine there!
Unfortunally I still haven't found a solution for DCS planes (except F-18 where it works fine too).

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by Estuans Interius:

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Never had a problem with any of my winwing stuff and DCS. Il2 on the other hand doesn't like winwing at all.

Haha, I've checked each plastic button in "Il2 Stalingrand" - LO,RO,LI,RI,A/A,A/G. And my WinWing specimen from Aliexpress works fine there!
Unfortunally I still haven't found a solution for DCS planes (except F-18 where it works fine too).

Single buttons work. Not the 3 ways. Like flaps, gear, hook etc. And I've not been able to get trim hat on the stick to work. So I have to trim using the axis on the take off panel.

[Estuans Interius]

Originally posted by Gunfreak:

Single buttons work. Not the 3 ways. Like flaps, gear, hook etc. And I've not been able to get trim hat on the stick to work. So I have to trim using the axis on the take off panel.

Yes, I can confirm that IL2 is broken in its own way. It translates different gear positions to the same one, for example Though after number of tries gear got mapped right as it should. This never happend in DCS W.