DCS: Mirage F1 by Aerges

[bignewy]

https://youtu.be/AsDu6EmCW3k

The Mirage F1 is a legendary single engine French fighter jet from the Cold War era. It has had an illustrious career serving with the air forces of France, Spain, Greece, Iraq and many other countries and has taken part in multiple conflicts. From its original role as an all-weather interceptor, it has evolved with multiple versions into a capable multirole platform.

Available now for early access.

https://store.steampowered.com/app/2071330/DCS_Mirage_F1/

Official forum: https://forum.dcs.world/forum/1047-dcs-mirage-f1/

[Tjitah]

It is extremely expensive in my local currency; ZAR1,366 (South African Rand), which is 14% more compared to ZAR1,194 for the F-18, F-16, F-14, A-10C and 53% more than ZAR895 for the Mirage 2000C. This makes the Mirage F1 the most expensive DCS-World add-on ever, and way out of line with pricing parity in US dollar.

I know local currency pricing has been talked to death, but I still don't get why Aerges/ Eagle Dynamics is punishing a poor country like South Africa with such exorbitant and out-of-kilter pricing. I was looking forward to the Mirage F1, but not anymore after seeing this exploitative price-gouging.

[Sundowning.]

8200 ARS lol.

Half a rent.

Delusional.

[bignewy]

All prices are matched to the US dollar, we understand it can be difficult in some regions but we have no control of local currency.
Thank you

[SalePlouck]

Hello, I just bought this module and transferred it on the E.D DCS version but when I want to download it it just open a pop up that says "unknown module Aerges Mirage F-1" any solution?

[bignewy]

Originally posted by SalePlouck:

Hello, I just bought this module and transferred it on the E.D DCS version but when I want to download it it just open a pop up that says "unknown module Aerges Mirage F-1" any solution?

make sure you are using open beta

[Tjitah]

Originally posted by bignewy:

All prices are matched to the US dollar, we understand it can be difficult in some regions but we have no control of local currency.
Thank you

Hi bignewy, I find it very difficult to understand why you don't have any control over pricing, as every single other developer on Steam seem to have perfect control over their prices and are also in tune with the realities of their markets.

Eagle Dynamics is the only developer to sell its products at a premium to a poor country such as South Africa. Every single other developer sell at a discount ranging from 12% to 68%. In fact, the majority sell at discounts in excess of 30% (see examples below), which is not only in touch with the purchasing power of currencies in the global market, but also morally and economically the right thing to do.

Developing countries such as South Africa are notorious for sharp exchange rate fluctuations and you obviously chose one of those anomalous periods of currency weakness in the ZAR to price the Mirage F1. That is not only rather dumb on your side, but also mathematically the wrong approach, as any decent economist will tell you.

Most developers either seem to keep their prices stable over extended periods or use the 5-year average exchange rate, which eliminates these anomalous spikes in exchange rates. I therefore strongly urge Eagle Dynamics and Aergis to re-look the pricing of the Mirage F1 (and many others such as the Hind), as it is clearly onerous and unaffordable to a (surprisingly devoted) segment of your user-base.

Aerofly FS 2 (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $37 ZAR price US$12 68% discount

Heliborne (increased in Aug 2020)
US$ price $7.49 ZAR price US$2.56 66% discount

IL-2: Desert Wings – Tobruk (reduced March 2021)
US$ price $50 ZAR price US$18 65% discount

Project Wingman (unchanged since release in Jan 2021)
US$ price $17.50 ZAR price US$6.10 65% discount

Tiny Combat Arena (unchanged since release in Mar 2022)
US$ price $20 ZAR price US$7.61 62% discount

FSX: Steam Edition (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $25 ZAR price US$16 37% discount

Air Missions: HIND (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $17 ZAR price US$10.65 37% discount

X-Plane 11 (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $60 ZAR price US$41 31% discount

IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $50 ZAR price US$40 20% discount

ACE COMBAT 7: SKIES UNKNOWN (unchanged for last 3 years)
US$ price $60 ZAR price US$50 17% discount

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The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $40 ZAR price US$23 41% discount

Metro 2033 Redux (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $20 ZAR price US$13 36% discount

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $30 ZAR price US$25 17% discount

Metro Exodus (reduced Jul 2021)
US$ price $30 ZAR price US$25 17% discount

DOOM Eternal (reduced Feb 2021)
US$ price $40 ZAR price US$35 12% discount

[bignewy]

Originally posted by Tjitah:

Originally posted by bignewy:

All prices are matched to the US dollar, we understand it can be difficult in some regions but we have no control of local currency.
Thank you

Hi bignewy, I find it very difficult to understand why you don't have any control over pricing, as every single other developer on Steam seem to have perfect control over their prices and are also in tune with the realities of their markets.

Eagle Dynamics is the only developer to sell its products at a premium to a poor country such as South Africa. Every single other developer sell at a discount ranging from 12% to 68%. In fact, the majority sell at discounts in excess of 30% (see examples below), which is not only in touch with the purchasing power of currencies in the global market, but also morally and economically the right thing to do.

Developing countries such as South Africa are notorious for sharp exchange rate fluctuations and you obviously chose one of those anomalous periods of currency weakness in the ZAR to price the Mirage F1. That is not only rather dumb on your side, but also mathematically the wrong approach, as any decent economist will tell you.

Most developers either seem to keep their prices stable over extended periods or use the 5-year average exchange rate, which eliminates these anomalous spikes in exchange rates. I therefore strongly urge Eagle Dynamics and Aergis to re-look the pricing of the Mirage F1 (and many others such as the Hind), as it is clearly onerous and unaffordable to a (surprisingly devoted) segment of your user-base.

Aerofly FS 2 (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $37 ZAR price US$12 68% discount

Heliborne (increased in Aug 2020)
US$ price $7.49 ZAR price US$2.56 66% discount

IL-2: Desert Wings – Tobruk (reduced March 2021)
US$ price $50 ZAR price US$18 65% discount

Project Wingman (unchanged since release in Jan 2021)
US$ price $17.50 ZAR price US$6.10 65% discount

Tiny Combat Arena (unchanged since release in Mar 2022)
US$ price $20 ZAR price US$7.61 62% discount

FSX: Steam Edition (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $25 ZAR price US$16 37% discount

Air Missions: HIND (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $17 ZAR price US$10.65 37% discount

X-Plane 11 (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $60 ZAR price US$41 31% discount

IL-2: Battle of Stalingrad (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $50 ZAR price US$40 20% discount

ACE COMBAT 7: SKIES UNKNOWN (unchanged for last 3 years)
US$ price $60 ZAR price US$50 17% discount

-------------------------------------------------------------------

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $40 ZAR price US$23 41% discount

Metro 2033 Redux (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $20 ZAR price US$13 36% discount

S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Call of Pripyat (unchanged for last 5 years)
US$ price $30 ZAR price US$25 17% discount

Metro Exodus (reduced Jul 2021)
US$ price $30 ZAR price US$25 17% discount

DOOM Eternal (reduced Feb 2021)
US$ price $40 ZAR price US$35 12% discount

I dont want to derail this thread with this, as mentioned we use the US dollar and we match currencies to it. If you think the dollar conversion is wrong PM me and we will look at the conversion price.

My comment about not having control was in reference to your countries currency and its value to the US dollar.

[spike2071]

Microsoft (Halo Infinite, Flight Simulator 2020, etc.), EA (Mass Effect Legendary Edition, F1 Racing, FIFA 22, etc.), and Square Enix (Final Fantasy 7, etc.), are 3 (very big) publishers that don't do regional pricing. I know there are some more, too.

It's highly unfair (and an outright lie) to claim Eagle Dynamics is the only publisher who does it. In fact, ED currently has lower South African prices than those 3 major publishers. You listed DOOM Eternal as an example of a good publisher, and they only have a 12% discount. Based SteamDB, ED's games have around a 12% discount, so...

[SalePlouck]

Originally posted by bignewy:

Originally posted by SalePlouck:

Hello, I just bought this module and transferred it on the E.D DCS version but when I want to download it it just open a pop up that says "unknown module Aerges Mirage F-1" any solution?

make sure you are using open beta

isn't the open beta a downgraded version of the current dcs?

[Gunfreak]

Originally posted by SalePlouck:

Originally posted by bignewy:

make sure you are using open beta

isn't the open beta a downgraded version of the current dcs?

No, open beta is where new features show up first.
Be it new weapons for a plane, new nap or completely new planes.
It's also the version most online servers use.

[bignewy]

Originally posted by SalePlouck:

Originally posted by bignewy:

make sure you are using open beta

isn't the open beta a downgraded version of the current dcs?

Open beta is the public test version, it gets the latest updates first.
As soon as the team are happy open beta is running well it gets pushed to stable DCS version.

[the_tActiciAn34]

how do you access open beta in dcs? i cant find the F1 in my module inventory in-game.

[Daniel Beuthner]

I just bought the Mirage F1 and running DCS on openbeta but it doesnt want to download the newest version i tried my best but it still dont downloading it : (

[Xupicor]

Originally posted by the_tActiciAn34:

how do you access open beta in dcs? i cant find the F1 in my module inventory in-game.

Right click on DCS in your Steam Library, go to Properties, Betas and choose Open Beta. Your game will update and you'll be able to access Beta features.

[F4rless]

this is very lot many