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Ut technically works for flying planes. But its not what I would call good.
The x56 us perfectly adequate, but for that price. I'd ad a little extra and get a Virpil or Winwing instead. X56 has a strange thing where you need to use powered USB to make sure it doesn't do strange things.
Here is the guy who is specialist for playing DCS with gamepad. I suggest to chech his vids,
https://youtu.be/KsQf7mh4PdI
X-56 have quite a lot of buttons and axis. Its precission is somewhere in middle quality and its centering mechanism is not the best one. Preety good universal stick. For me the ability for better control is more important than ammount of buttons. So in my case I would recommend something with better precission. If you don't want to spend much for the first time, (In our country the X-56 costs 285,40 USD), I would rather go into T-16000M.
Even in the best case scenario, a controller can only do so much (even with heavy use of modifiers). It will work but there will be compromises when it comes to doing more complex actions across multiple systems. Even a perfectly configured controller with all the right modifiers will be slower since those modifiers limit how many things you can do in rapid succession.
As far as the X56 goes, this is where you gotta be careful with how much stock you put into internet consensus. As with anything else, the way the internet will present reliability issues is going to be biased pretty heavily towards the few who have the strongest opinions. People tend to speak more loudly online when things go wrong as opposed to when things work fine.
The X56 has its strengths and weaknesses. The big strength is its versatility. It punches well above its price point in regards to selection and variety of useful controls. You are not likely to run into a situation where it doesn't have enough controls to comfortably bind up even the most sophisticated DCS aircraft. Additionally. It is reasonably accurate. It isn't the best in that department but it is good enough considering the price you are paying.
In regards to weaknesses. The big thing is that you absolutely NEED a powered USB hub for the throttle (specifically). For some reason, Saitek (the original designer/manufacturer) designed the X56's throttle to draw a lot more power than pretty much any other throttle on the market and if you try to just plug it straight into your computer, you will likely think it is broken as you will get a ton of "ghost inputs" where switches and such trigger on their own. If you plug it into a POWERED usb 3 hub, you won't get that issue.
The other weakness is the throttle axis feel. Unlike other throttles, the X56 has a sort of heavy dampening grease that will make fine, slow movements a bit more difficult than they should be. This isn't a insurmountable problem or anything but it is a curious design choice and one that will probably end up pushing you towards a higher-end throttle down the road.
One last overall note about the X56. Since it was originally designed, marketed, and sold by Saitek, it has a lot of the same issues that the X52 and X55 did with fairly low quality electronic components. This manifests most in the potentiometers used for the rotary controls. They just aren't very accurate and as such, they will be rather jumpy. This isn't a massive dealbreaker but it is something you are likely to notice as you spend more time using one.
As Troll Norris said, the X56 is very much a mid-grade HOTAS. It doesn't have a lot of the harsh limitations that cheaper, entry-level HOTAS setups have (like the T.16000, X52, and the TM HOTAS-X) but it also isn't going to feel or work as well as the higher-end stuff like Winwing, VKB (stick only, they don't make a full HOTAS), or Virpil.
If I were working with a limited budget and needed to have a good HOTAS setup to "grow into", I would likely choose the X56 over the T.16000. You might not have great quality but you are getting a full HOTAS with both a stick and throttle designed to maximize useful controls. The T.16000 has a decent enough (if a bit limited) throttle but the stick is just a repackaging of their entry level, standalone stick and as such, it isn't designed to work well in a HOTAS context. It just doesn't give you the right kind of controls, in the right amount, and in the right places.
I don't believe in a "starter HOTAS". What most people think "starter HOTAS" means is "what is the least amount of money possible." That results in purchasing something like a T.Flight HOTAS X, which is little better than toy grade and has a myriad of reliability issues.
A good starter HOTAS is a system that does the job you want it to do well enough, and doesn't force you to upgrade before you want to because it fails. This is usually why people move on from the T.16k and the T.FLIGHT -not because they actually need a more versatile system, but because the "beginner" one they own is no longer working properly.
A good "beginner" stick is one that works, works reliably, won't give you frustrating issues, and will last you years if you don't want to upgrade it.
For that I usually recommend a VKB Gladiator EVO. Yea, it's not as cheap as a T16000m (it's about $120 for the base version), but it's not going to fail on you either. Cheap and reliable simply don't exist in the joystick or HOTAS world. They just don't, no matter how much some people want to believe they do.
You can pair the EVO with a TWCS throttle (not amazing, but not terrible) and that will give you a HOTAS system that will last years and won't force you to upgrade or replace it when you don't want to.
Now, in comparison to the X56, I generally agree with what startrekmike wrote above, but whether or not an X56 is a good buy, IMO, really depends on how much it costs to get it where you are. HOTAS systems are pretty subject to regional pricing. For example, where I am, an X56 costs more than an EVO + TWCS throttle.
As a good entry level HOTAS, it will certainly give new players a solid start and will even serve players well enough who are on a tighter budget. That being said, it is still a entry level HOTAS and has its limits. If a player has the budget and desire for a Winwing or even a Virpil setup, they will get a lot more versatility and functionality to go with the higher price tag.
If you're a bit tech savvy, T.Flight HOTAS X is good enough, especially if you use it like once a month or less like me. I have time periods when I play a lot of Elite Dangerous, then stop playing it for a few months, so the hotas is collecting dust. My T'Flight X works like a new one and when it starts to do strange things, I just fix it and it's like new again. It's a matter of cleaning specific potentiometer once in a while.
I only fixed X/Y axis once and I need to fix Yaw once in a while (which takes 10 minutes max). Videos with fixes:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_zQ7Tj6Axc0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gy-u6GYf_Yc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVUYpKUJkp8
I live in Poland and hardware is comparatively more pricey in comparison to our wages, so if I rarely use something, I don't see a reason to buy a more expensive hardware.
And not to sound like a ♥♥♥♥, but it's also mostly recommended by people who have never used anything else, and simply don't have a point of comparison for how crappy it actually is.
When people say 'it's a good HOTAS' I usually ask 'compared to what?'. I've never gotten anything but crickets back.
And this is why I say you really have to look at regional pricing for HOTAS gear before making one's decision.
In Canada the T.Flight is downright highway robbery (~$120). The Thrustmaster stuff even moreso. The Thrustmaster FCS HOTAS is over $240. That's almost $100 more than a VKB Gladiator EVO, making the VKB a much more realistic option especially considering how much better of a unit it is. You can find a CH Pro throttle here for $120 if you look hard, whereas the TWCS averages around $160. Some places the CH Pro is going for over $300 CAD.
So yea. It's not quite as simple as "one system is cheaper than the other". There's a lot to consider.
I still maintain the best entry level HOTAS is a VKB EVO combined with a TWCS or CH Pro throttle (whichever one you can get cheaper). The CH Pro is older but far more reliable, whereas the TWCS is more versatile.
Though another often ignored stick is the Logitech 3D Pro. Very basic, but cheap and the things seem to just work forever.
https://pctuning.cz/article/thrustmaster-pendular-rudder-kovarske-veledilo
https://pctuning.cz/article/highendove-joysticky-virpil-vpc-mongoost-t50-a-vkb-gladiator
https://pctuning.cz/article/highendove-joysticky-thrustmaster-hotas-warthog
https://pctuning.cz/article/velky-test-joysticku-ctyrka-pro-ty-narocnejsi
https://pctuning.cz/article/sest-joysticku-s-cenou-pod-1500-korun-v-testu
https://pctuning.cz/article/joystick-thrustmaster-t-16000m-fcs-hotas-pro-kazdeho-pilota
https://pctuning.cz/article/saitek-pro-flight-yoke-berany-pro-poradne-letce
https://pctuning.cz/article/saitek-cyborg-evo-detailni-rozbor
Yikes. I bought my T.Flight HOTAS X in August 2020 for 179 PLN (I saw it on sale like 3 weeks ago for 199 PLN). 200PLN is around 42 USD.
That was my joystick before I bought the HOTAS - Logitech Extreme 3D Pro. I bought it in February 2019 for 168,46 PLN, also on sale (there was a coupon in shop for everything from Logitech). It was drifting already when I bought the T.Flight X. I had to set deadzones in Elite: Dangerous to sill use it back then. I still have it, maybe I'll try to fix it one day. The stick felt a bit better than the one from T.Flight, but using both throttle and stick is way more fun.
They used to be about $60 CAD here, cheaper than the T16000m. But likewise the warthog used to be around $500 CAD, now it's up around $750.
I got my full CH setup for about $350 back in 2013 or so. Now I'm seeing the throttle alone listed for over $300 CAD in some places.
Mainstream HOTAS gear has unfortunately crept up in price quite substantially. It's not as bad now as it was 2 years ago but prices haven't returned to pre-2019 levels.
I used to play A-10C in the year of 2011 using the Saitek X-52 and Saitek rudder pedals (Now I have Virpil stick with A-10C grip and T-50 grip, warthog throttle and MFG Crosswind pedals).
Even this stick did not have enough buttons and knobs to be able to use A-10C without need of shift or mode button. But for me it was more comfortable to use keyboard than using shift or mode button. And it is why I do prefer precision of stick over the number of buttons and why for me the T-16000M would be better choice. Because T-16000M uses same sensor for main axis as the HOTAS Warthog which means same precission. Also the T-16000M have bit better centering mechanism than X-52 and X-52 like sticks.
But in a sim immersion is a big thing. Flying a center stick plane with a center stick is actually very nice for immersion especially in VR.
Did I need to spend a few £100 to make a 3d printed spitfire cockpit thingy. No, but damn isn't cool feeling that spade grip in your hand while flying a spitfire and using the correct trigger. Same with the thorttle.
But no matter what you do I have 1 recommendations.
1. If you only plan on 1 throttle. Get a split thorttle. It makes flying all 2 engine jets much easier, plus the split thorttle is perfect for Boost/RPM controls in ww2 birds.
2. Get a throttle with cursor hat, helps so much when dealing with screen heavy planes like F16 or F18, having that cursor control on the thorttle is paramount for ease of control.
Hell even in the old Viggen will that come in handy.
Lot of talk about various brands of Stick, Throttle, and so forth. But there are two things you need at a minimum to be effective in DCS:
1. A Joystick. Doesn't have to be a great joystick. Logitech Extreme Pro 3D for $30-$40 will do just fine. It has lots of buttons and twist for yaw. It will do to learn to fly for sure.
2. TrackIR Pro (or some sort of headtracking kit). Simply cannot be effective in dogfights, tracking incoming missles, and so forth using just key/hat controls to look around.
Everything else you can spend money on after you learn the basics of startup, takeoff, flying, combat, landing and shutdown.
Good Hunting :)