Easy to move onto foot pedals instead of stick twist?

[CapnLacey]

I moved onto the warthog and as a result I need rudders but I'm curious whether it'll be harder to get used to as I'm very used to stick twist and if anyones got tips for it

[SSerponi76]

I've used the stick twist for a long time an when I switched to pedals I found that using them is much more precise and comfortable, and has many advantages, including the fact that you can use them for wheelbrakes too, freeing some controls on the hotas stick.

However, since they works in a counter-intuitive way (i.e. to turn right you need to push the right foot and pull the left, which actually is rotating to LEFT) one might require some time to get used to them.

[HoboCop]

I did the same thing years ago. DO NOT buy cheap pedals! You will regret it instantly.
I bought the cheapo thrustmaster ones and they are absolutely hideous and useless. I barely used them and then they started to become faulty anyway.

I ended up with the thrustmaster pendular ones and they are absolutely amazing!

and.... on a similar note, if you end up sick of the gimbal quality of the hog stick, then replace this with a Virpil warbrd.

And I would also recommend modding the TDC axis on the hog throttle too, to an arftermarket upgrade. Only £46 and it's an absolute game changer! https://deltasimelectronics.com/products/thumbstick-slew-sensor-adapter

[HoboCop]

Originally posted by SSerponi76:

However, since they works in a counter-intuitive way (i.e. to turn right you need to push the right foot and pull the left, which actually is rotating to LEFT) one might require some time to get used to them.

Glad it wasn't just me who found this counter intuitive

However, what is bizarre, is that I've flown a small handful of real aircraft including gliders, gyro copters and light aircraft (including a Robin 2160 for aerobatics) and in each and every one, the rudder use was perfectly intuitive.

Also, with my current pendular rudders on my PC, their use is intuitive.

*But*, with the pedals I first bought (t.flight), I kept using them the wrong way all the time. I thought I was going mad. But it must be to do with the way they are tilted or something? They feel more like car pedals, whereby they are flat to the floor, other than aircraft pedal which are in a more upright position.

[SSerponi76]

Originally posted by HoboCop:

Originally posted by SSerponi76:

However, since they works in a counter-intuitive way (i.e. to turn right you need to push the right foot and pull the left, which actually is rotating to LEFT) one might require some time to get used to them.

Glad it wasn't just me who found this counter intuitive

However, what is bizarre, is that I've flown a small handful of real aircraft including gliders, gyro copters and light aircraft (including a Robin 2160 for aerobatics) and in each and every one, the rudder use was perfectly intuitive.

Also, with my current pendular rudders on my PC, their use is intuitive.

*But*, with the pedals I first bought (t.flight), I kept using them the wrong way all the time. I thought I was going mad. But it must be to do with the way they are tilted or something? They feel more like car pedals, whereby they are flat to the floor, other than aircraft pedal which are in a more upright position.

Dunno, I'm using TFRP and apart for that bizarre thing when steering the nosewheel they working fine (with my budget at time I had to choose between logitech force 3d + TM pendular rudder OR Hotas Warthog + TFRP so I obviously opted for the second combo ).
When I push the (i.e.) left foot I saw the left pedal moving so they are working correctly but on the ground this feel a little strange (not in the air however).
After some hours I get used on that so now I almost don't notice it anymore.

[startrekmike]

Pedals are pretty intuitive. You might have to adjust a bit to the greater range of motion and just general coordination but it is pretty much a non-issue once you get going.

As far as choosing pedals. It really is going to come down to how much you are willing to spend and what your practical budget is. You can jump straight to high-end setups like MFG Crosswinds, Thrustmaster TPR's, Slaw, or other similar devices. There is no denying that these setups are pretty great but they are not cheap.

If you do opt to start on the inexpensive side of things, I would suggest looking at CH Pro Pedals. Out of all the cheaper pedals, these are the ones that are most likely to last a while and are the most serviceable. I have had my CH's for years and while they are not perfect, they still work and that is more than I can say for a lot of other cheaper brands. I still keep them around as a "back-up" for my Crosswinds.

[Enigmatic]

Yeah pedals are much better. Sometimes I put my feel away from pedals in flying but really if I had a more erganomic chair. Like a pilots seat my feet would stay near the pedals lol. Well I do have anouther chair I might try now I think of it.

After you get pedals. Feel like the next step is track IR

[Migel]

I used the Extreme 3D pro with a twist axis for the longest time.
Now I have the warthog and VKB Mk. IV T-Rudder Pedals. Pedals are very intuitive and not hard to get used to. Sometimes you do forget you have them at your disposal, but it feels good to have them.

Probably gonna be very easy, especially if you're used to inputs with your feet... meaning, if you've ever driven a car.

[Maki Nishikino]

I guess it would depend on what you're using hardware wise. My rudder pedals from PFC take a lot more effort than using the twist function on my VKB Gladiator NXT. Unless I'm flying helicopters in DCS or XP I opt to simply use the twist function. Even when I do use my rudder pedals it can get tiresome. There are times I simply use the paddles on my Thrustmaster TWCS.

I use these...

https://flypfc.com/shop/rudder-pedals/cirrus-rudder-pedals/cirrus-rudder-pedals-boeing/

[Enigmatic]

My saitek Cyborg X twist was really bad. It had huge dead zone. Than a small input is like a massive twist. on Ka50 I couldn't really engage without using launch Authorization Override.

With Rudder pedals I no longer need to override the LA.
Oh I also noticed I am making almost every landing now. I even go in for really short approaches and am turning into the airfield now.

[Maki Nishikino]

Oh, startrekmike mentioned crosswind landings. I would like to add that going from a twist grip to a actual pedals makes crosswind landings much, much easier. It also helps you a lot during the climb when you need to keep that right rudder going.

[startrekmike]

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Oh, startrekmike mentioned crosswind landings. I would like to add that going from a twist grip to a actual pedals makes crosswind landings much, much easier. It also helps you a lot during the climb when you need to keep that right rudder going.

No, I was talking about MFG Crosswind pedals.

[Maki Nishikino]

Originally posted by startrekmike:

Originally posted by Maki Nishikino:

Oh, startrekmike mentioned crosswind landings. I would like to add that going from a twist grip to a actual pedals makes crosswind landings much, much easier. It also helps you a lot during the climb when you need to keep that right rudder going.

No, I was talking about MFG Crosswind pedals.

Fair enough but none the less I've used both my twist grip and pedals in crosswind landings and the latter is far better under such circumstance.

[Sandhill]

I found pedals much more intuitive and a LOT less strenuous to use compared to a twist grip...pedals are much easier to maintain a setting effortlessly for as long as you'd like. Don't neglect that if you already own a 3 pedal auto racing/driving pedal set they work quite well for aircraft at a very attractive ($0) price

[Maki Nishikino]

I think my problem might actually be how extremely awkward it is to use such rudder pedals for everything and why I actually don't. Something about them just feels really, really weird. I might order some new ones from Amazon that I can throw under my main PC and keep them there.

[Delta Dagger]

If you're flying jets, it won't be world changing immediately, but you'll find it more enjoyable.

For piston fighters and helicopters? They're a must, IMO.