Does Su-33 aircraft included in Flaming Cliffs 3 ?

[denism77]

Does Su-33 aircraft included in Flaming Cliffs 3 or su-33 have to be purchased separetely?

[TechBump]

The SU33 is included in FC3 :) But if you want to spawn on the Admiral Kuznetsov 2017 you have to buy the Super Carrier DLC...

[Richardus]

Yes

[Finrod]

Su33 is also included in super carrier DLC

[Sizigmund]

Flaming cliffs 3 includes "A-10A", "F-15C", "Su-25", "Su-27", "Su-33", "MiG-29A", "MiG29S", "MiG-29G", "J-11A". There is a default "Admiral Kuznetsov" RU carrier in the game and default "Stenis" US carrier. You also have the models from "Supercarrier" DLC, but you can't use them for carrier operations until you buy the "Supercarrier" DLC. The "Supercarrier" DLC currently in early access. It contains 2 or 3 US carriers and will contain 5 after relese, It also contains a new model of "Admiral Kuznetsov" RU carrier that have better textures and some animations added. Additionally the "Supercarrier" DLC contains Su-33 plane.

[KingEli]

Yeah but don't forget all of these are low fidelity models.

[Sizigmund]

Originally posted by KingEli:

Yeah but don't forget all of these are low fidelity models.

Thats true, but while they don't have clickable cockpits and their systems are simplified, they still have a realistic flight model. Additionally, for some people including myself, it doesn't matter that they are low fidelity. I personally enjoy flying them. I also have full fidelity modules and I'm already flying some of them, but I still love flying MiG-29S, Su-33 and Su-25.

[denism77]

but if I separetely purchaise mig-29 and su-33 it will have hight fidelity models or it can be the same?

Originally posted by Sizigmund:

Originally posted by KingEli:

Yeah but don't forget all of these are low fidelity models.

Thats true, but while they don't have clickable cockpits and their systems are simplified, they still have a realistic flight model. Additionally, for some people including myself, it doesn't matter that they are low fidelity. I personally enjoy flying them. I also have full fidelity modules and I'm already flying some of them, but I still love flying MiG-29S, Su-33 and Su-25.

[KingEli]

Originally posted by Sizigmund:

Originally posted by KingEli:

Yeah but don't forget all of these are low fidelity models.

Thats true, but while they don't have clickable cockpits and their systems are simplified, they still have a realistic flight model. Additionally, for some people including myself, it doesn't matter that they are low fidelity. I personally enjoy flying them. I also have full fidelity modules and I'm already flying some of them, but I still love flying MiG-29S, Su-33 and Su-25.

I agree all in all it's a very affordable dlc that gives you much more than you pay.

[KingEli]

Originally posted by denism77:

but if I separetely purchaise mig-29 and su-33 it will have hight fidelity models or it can be the same?

Originally posted by Sizigmund:

Thats true, but while they don't have clickable cockpits and their systems are simplified, they still have a realistic flight model. Additionally, for some people including myself, it doesn't matter that they are low fidelity. I personally enjoy flying them. I also have full fidelity modules and I'm already flying some of them, but I still love flying MiG-29S, Su-33 and Su-25.

Note: the aircraft model is identical to the Flaming Cliffs 3 module. Owners of FC3 do not need to purchase.

So same yeah, there aren't high fidelity dlc's for these models yet.

[denism77]

for what I must to have aircraft carriers for su-33 if su-33 and mig-29 doesn't have vertical flights and only have fishing finish?

[Sizigmund]

Originally posted by denism77:

for what I must to have aircraft carriers for su-33 if su-33 and mig-29 doesn't have vertical flights and only have fishing finish?

Su-33 can operate from a carrier, MiG-29 can't. At least the models that we have in game, can't operate from a carrier. MiG-29K and MiG-29KUB can operate from a carrier, but there is no such a models in this game.

You don't need the "Supercarrier" DLC to use Su-33 with a carrier. There is a default "Admiral Kuznetsov" carrier included in game.

Su-33 don't have an ability to take off and land vertically thats true. But there is almost no planes that can do that including US planes. Planes that can operate from a carrier don't need this ability.

[Richardus]

- Buy SU-33 -> Can take off and land from the standard Soviet aircraft carrier
- Mig-29 -> Cannot take off or land from any aircraft carrier, it is land-based only

[denism77]

What USA planes models have ability to flight verticaly in this game?

[denism77]

Originally posted by Sizigmund:

Originally posted by denism77:

for what I must to have aircraft carriers for su-33 if su-33 and mig-29 doesn't have vertical flights and only have fishing finish?

You don't need the "Supercarrier" DLC to use Su-33 with a carrier. There is a default "Admiral Kuznetsov" carrier included in game.

Originally posted by Sizigmund:

Flaming cliffs 3 includes "A-10A", "F-15C", "Su-25", "Su-27", "Su-33", "MiG-29A", "MiG29S", "MiG-29G", "J-11A". There is a default "Admiral Kuznetsov" RU carrier in the game and default "Stenis" US carrier. You also have the models from "Supercarrier" DLC, but you can't use them for carrier operations until you buy the "Supercarrier" DLC.

This two your ansers are opposite. Where is a true?

[Sizigmund]

Originally posted by denism77:

This two your ansers are opposite. Where is a true?

They aren't opposite, you just don't pay enough attention while reading. What I said, that there is a default carriers in game for RU and US. But there is also a models of a carriers from "Supercarrier" DLC in game. But until you buy the "Supercarrier" DLC, you can't use them with the planes that can operate from a carrier.

In other words, you can use Su-33 with default "Admeral Kuznetsov" but you can't use it with "Admiral Kuznetsov 2017" until you buy a "Supercarrier" DLC. The same for US planes. You can use F/A-18C and F-14A/B with the default "Stenis" carrier. But you have to buy a "Supercarrier" DLC to use them with other US carriers even that all these models can be picked in a mission editor and placed on map and AI planes can use them.

The only US plane in DCS that have vertical take-off / landing ability is "Harrier AV-8B N/A" but this model is more for air to ground than for air to air.