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Maxagaze Mar 7, 2021 @ 2:41pm
TrackIR vs Oculous quest 2
I have never used a VR, and I do have some questions regarding to Track IR.
I have seen in many videos that inside the VR, the screen trembles. Isn't that annoying?
Can you turn your head backwards or 90 degrees up? Is this as versatile as the TrackIR?

Which is better by your opinion?

Thanks in advance
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your view now is trembling but your brain compensates and smoothes it out.

so, you don't actually notice it while playing.

the headset will display anywhere you look. it's like being there.
tracker is prob best for pvp but for immersion VR is the way forward.
Never used TrackIR before, but VR view can go where your head/neck can go. Technically, you can cheat and look right behind you if you are sitting on a turn-able chair. If your rig can support it and you have tuned it right, it is very smooth.
Last edited by VRFlightGuyInPJPants; Mar 8, 2021 @ 3:21am
Ho Chi Mar 8, 2021 @ 3:40am 
i use the quest 2 , it only looks that way on screen , inside the headdset its smooth as butter. need a beast of a pc though to get it looking nice an running semi decent , spotting targets at range is an issue though.
Maxagaze Mar 8, 2021 @ 4:50am 
Originally posted by Ho Chi Minge:
i use the quest 2 , it only looks that way on screen , inside the headdset its smooth as butter. need a beast of a pc though to get it looking nice an running semi decent , spotting targets at range is an issue though.

Ryzen 7 3700
32 Gb RAM 3600 Mhz
Vega 56 8Gb

Is that enough?
SEVEN50 Mar 8, 2021 @ 11:21am 
I have both... and personally prefer TrackIR... I get motion sickness from using VR, so i regret purchasing the VR headset. Anyways, with TrackIR you can set the sensitivity to allow a 180 degree head turn behind or 90 degree look up view.
Maki Nishikino Mar 8, 2021 @ 11:38am 
I use TrackIR myself. I've tried playing games in VR (never in a flight sim though) and I can't stand it.
spike2071 Mar 8, 2021 @ 1:18pm 
Prefer TrackIR. VR is neat, but the graphics are worse for the same performance, the headset is heavy and gets hot, the complete lack of awareness of my surroundings bothers me, and it causes eye strain after some time.

I have an ultrawide monitor for general gaming, which makes TrackIR even better. TrackIR is also much easier when learning the plane, as you can reference another screen, phone, etc., or just alt-Tab to check the manual/guide. I might revisit if the newer VR headsets are lighter and cooler, but not sure I can get over the eye strain or lack of awareness. For me, VR was awesome the first few hours I tried it, then it just became annoying.

:cleancake:
nicogarcia0 Mar 12, 2021 @ 4:52am 
I prefer quest 2, its very inmersive and if you use Virtual desktop you can use a HOTAS and hand tracking at the same time, so you can use the cabin buttons if they are clickables, i had motion sickness at the beggining, but with 2-3 hours of playing (not followed) i never had it anymore. I highly recomend quest 2 for almost every simulator.
Dura_Ace Mar 24, 2021 @ 3:22pm 
I used opentrack with a delan clip first. Liked it, so i got trackIR. I get sick in VR so that is a nono
Aeneas2020 Mar 24, 2021 @ 4:40pm 
TLDR: Both have pros and cons but I switched to VR and i'm sticking with it.

I've used both in the past although not both in DCS. I switched to VR about 8 months ago in DCS and i haven't looked back (well i mean i check my six in game but you know what i mean!). Track IR is great and frankly doesn't have some of the issues of VR, namely i'm lazy about getting it set up and in the summer it can get a little hot but honestly the level of immersion is amazing in VR. I've flew IRL and i've played flight sims my whole life but after flying in VR it reawakened my love of flying IRL to the point where i'm looking to get back in the cockpit after 10 years away, so i don't know how much more of an endorsement i can give to give VR a try.

Having said that if you can find figure out a way to try it out first then do it. Track IR is a much cheaper alternative too.
startrekmike Mar 24, 2021 @ 5:00pm 
There is another factor to consider when dealing with VR. Since you are covering your eyes, you do lose out on convenient access to other screens or even a notepad when you want to write down information or refer to a manual/checklist. Likewise. You also would need to consider the tactile distinctiveness of any future controls you buy for flight simming since you will need to discern everything by touch and muscle memory. Even real pilots are able (and occasionally do) look down at their panels and even a kneeboard.

Detective Dan Mar 29, 2021 @ 5:18pm 
Track IR is nice if you already have a nice big monitor or triple monitor setup.

But VR is definitely the way to go. The first time i played DCS in VR i knew i was never going back to flat screen. The feeling is completely indescribable. It's totally possible to play without needing to take your hands off the controls (if you have HOTAS). Though, if you play a little more hardcore-like as startrekmike said, you'll need to peak under the headset if you utilize extra tools or need to write stuff down

Using a Rift S w/ FC3 F-15. Apologies for the bad video recording. Anything else and it results in a huge hit to performance. https://www.twitch.tv/videos/549468976. Hopefully there isn't too much headshake for you :)

The app on the left is called Voiceattack and it will let you use voice recognition for various commands (a2a refueling, AWACS Ping, landing/take off clearance etc etc). With all the addins and stuff its about $40.
Eisprinzessin Mar 30, 2021 @ 8:42am 
I have Track IR on a 32:9 Monitor and it rocks.

And i have a Reverb G2....and this is the thing i fly with ;-)
Olympian Apr 2, 2021 @ 11:34pm 
Here's my personal list of pros and cons of VR:
+ Absolutely stunning and immersive
- Needs beefy hardware to get smooth frame rate
- I get motion sick very fast in VR
- Not easily possible to use real-life keyboard and other peripherals, like button boxes
- Not easily possible to take real-life kneeboard notes, like 9-line, target coordinates, etc.

Meanwhile I have gone back to TrackIR and sold the VR equipment.
At the moment the cons outweigh to pros for me.
But I will probably try again in a couple of years when new generations of VR hardware will be available.
Last edited by Olympian; Apr 2, 2021 @ 11:37pm
I have a second, small kb with no keypad on my lap when I fly in VR, mostly for comm. It is doable but I am still adjusting to it.
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