F-18 pitch bug

[Burrito]

I started to play the hornet today and when I started to practice on dogfights I noticed how my atuo flaps started freaking out and started causing my back elevators to be in an upward pitch. I didn’t touch anything my controllers are working fine and im not too sure if this is a bug but if not how can i fix this problem. P.S i also tried it on different scenarios and after take off my elevators would pitch straight up and cause me to stall out. In some cases my wheel gear warning light kept beeping even though my gear was up

[God´s Mom]

Messaggio originale di Balsafer:

Messaggio originale di God´s Mom:

small and gentle movements (also always trim your aircraft)

As been said a few times trim does nothing

I was talking about this:

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

Handling felt wacky while trying to do mid air refueling training, too. Nice and slow movement then suddenly I'm bucking like a horse.

[Team Triss]

Messaggio originale di God´s Mom:

Messaggio originale di Balsafer:

As been said a few times trim does nothing

I was talking about this:

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

Handling felt wacky while trying to do mid air refueling training, too. Nice and slow movement then suddenly I'm bucking like a horse.

That's the thing, though. I am doing slow movements, then sometimes they stop being slow and the same stick deviation results in me bucking wildly.

[God´s Mom]

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

Messaggio originale di God´s Mom:

I was talking about this:

That's the thing, though. I am doing slow movements, then sometimes they stop being slow and the same stick deviation results in me bucking wildly.

Thats the normal behavior
Try do perform more precise movements

[Stealth]

This happened to me once. It was because I didn't raise my landing gear in time and my nose gear had ripped off. Air was getting caught in the wheel well, causing uncontrollable pitch up. I couldn't figure out what was wrong until I checked external view and saw that my gear was gone.

[Heru Ra Ha]

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

Messaggio originale di God´s Mom:

I was talking about this:

That's the thing, though. I am doing slow movements, then sometimes they stop being slow and the same stick deviation results in me bucking wildly.

Iirc the input becomes more sensitive once you opened up for refuel at least in the f16 so when you open the thingy, maybe the same for the f18 once you extend the probe.

[God´s Mom]

Messaggio originale di Heru Ra Ha:

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

That's the thing, though. I am doing slow movements, then sometimes they stop being slow and the same stick deviation results in me bucking wildly.

Iirc the input becomes more sensitive once you opened up for refuel at least in the f16 so when you open the thingy, maybe the same for the f18 once you extend the probe.

yes

[FIONA2021]

First of all, please understand that we will be using translation software.

I also encountered a similar problem. This is a phenomenon in which when an F/A-18C takes off, it loops at the same time as takeoff. Also, the elevator only goes down a little.

I was able to resolve the issue by doing the following:

1. Update Windows.
2. All updates for the joystick (mine is a Thrustmaster A-10 Warthog).
3. Check whether additional controllers or keyboards are being input without permission. (I'll update those too if possible.)

4. Restart your PC and DCS.

In the above example, no problem occurred during hot start such as instant action. In this case, there is no need to adjust the controller adjustment options within DCS.

The elevator points upwards during takeoff, but when you set the flaps to auto after takeoff, it becomes horizontal.

that's all

We hope your DCS life will be wonderful!

[Troll Norris]

You fly Aircraft with negative static stability ( CG is in front of CL ). All flight control surfaces are controled by computer.

Make sure that:
1) If you don't have stick with FFB, disable it in misc. Options menu.
2) Turn off game flight mode in gameplay options menu
3) There is no double bind (two devices for same command) in the axis commands in the controls options menu
4) play multi threading preview version.

[Jel]

and also have a look at your left MFD. Any advisories ?

[test]

Might be wake turbulence.

[Troll Norris]

Messaggio originale di od3:

Might be wake turbulence.

Wake turbulences are behind aircrafts. If there did not fly any in last 5 minutes, there should be nothing. In my opinion it is one of options which I have posted. Or as the Jel posted, forgot to reset FCS system, trim, test FBW system. I also looked into older replys. There is written something about fine stick movements:
Mind the lenght of stick in F/A-18C is around one meter. The joystick which most people use have no more than 15 cm in lenght. That means much smaller precission than with stick in real aircraft. Player have to compensate this by stick lenght extension or setting axis curves which makes stick less sensitive near center for the price of higher sensitivity at full deflection.

[Troll Norris]

Messaggio originale di God´s Mom:

Messaggio originale di LoR Team Triss:

Handling felt wacky while trying to do mid air refueling training, too. Nice and slow movement then suddenly I'm bucking like a horse.

thats normal behavior

Common problem caused by wrong techique. Do not stare into basket. Just like in car, look as far as you can. For example the wing tip or engine nacelle. Check the basket only by your peripheral vision.

Look. In video I added axis diagram in corner. There you can see how much I deflect stick when refuelling:
https://youtu.be/wwByzjxuhEs

[NineLine]

Messaggio originale di Fiona2021:

First of all, please understand that we will be using translation software.

I also encountered a similar problem. This is a phenomenon in which when an F/A-18C takes off, it loops at the same time as takeoff. Also, the elevator only goes down a little.

I was able to resolve the issue by doing the following:

1. Update Windows.
2. All updates for the joystick (mine is a Thrustmaster A-10 Warthog).
3. Check whether additional controllers or keyboards are being input without permission. (I'll update those too if possible.)

4. Restart your PC and DCS.

In the above example, no problem occurred during hot start such as instant action. In this case, there is no need to adjust the controller adjustment options within DCS.

The elevator points upwards during takeoff, but when you set the flaps to auto after takeoff, it becomes horizontal.

that's all

We hope your DCS life will be wonderful!

Hey, can you send us a track file of what is happening? This is the best way to diagnose the issue. You can send it to us on the official forums or post a link to it here. Thanks!

[Life Pilgrim]

I have this bug too. F-18 pitching up nonstop. I think the TO trim is reponsible. Resetting trim does NOT help

[MiCRon 08]

Messaggio originale di Life Pilgrim:

I have this bug too. F-18 pitching up nonstop. I think the TO trim is responsible. Resetting trim does NOT help

Yup I have had the TO (Take Off) trim being the culprit for myself twice and from a friend when he first tried the Hornet. Hitting the "Reset FCS" button while making sure you are not giving any flight inputs on the stick can fix the issue. Although you might want to land and repair or get a new plane after.
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If you are new to the Hornet, the Hornet has a Take Off Trim setting in the flight control computer. You push the TO Trim button during a cold startup to activate. Its on by default during a hot start.

What It does is sets the vertical stabilizers to 12deg of pitch up input to assist in takeoff. And you are supposed to adjust it higher if you have a full load of things on your pylons.

The FCS should return the plane to normal flight trim as soon as you leave the ground (automatically). BUT Its possible to have it get stuck on so that your plane is at Take Off Trim in flight. Hence the plane pitches up like crazy! You can see the status of the Trim on the FCS Page on one of your displays too.

Hope that helps some players!