DCS World Steam Edition

DCS World Steam Edition

SlipNSlyde Feb 20, 2019 @ 11:11am
Is There an F4 Phantom? A Vietnam Campaign?
I am looking for a modern take on USNF 97 if anybody remembers that one.
I am looking for a flight game that has a semi serious simulator mode and modern graphics.
I would prefer to fly the F4 Phantom.
I want to fly from cockpit view.
I would prefer a Vietnam campaign.

If not, can anyone recommend any games that might fit my requirements? Thanks.
Considering:
Arma (but F4 is still missing I think)
IL2 Sturmovik with mods
Strike Fighters 2 with mods
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Vilab Feb 20, 2019 @ 11:51am 
no Vietnam map on DCS

there is a F4E planned, but it will be a late post Vietnam USAF variant, and it probably won't be released before at least 4 years

DCS is free to download, and you will be able to fly with 2 free plane
even if it doesn 't fit all your requirement, you may try it
SlipNSlyde Feb 20, 2019 @ 12:20pm 
Originally posted by Vilab:
no Vietnam map on DCS

there is a F4E planned, but it will be a late post Vietnam USAF variant, and it probably won't be released before at least 4 years

DCS is free to download, and you will be able to fly with 2 free plane
even if it doesn 't fit all your requirement, you may try it

4 years haha OK. Seems a sim is harder to build than the actual aircraft :)

I really am looking for a Vietnam era game, but I might try DCS eventually.
I'm a little bit put off by 20 minute pre flight checks and every button in the cockpit actually working. It's a little hard core for my preferences.
Vilab Feb 20, 2019 @ 12:22pm 
the FC3 planes don't require extensive procedure

the free su-25t is fc-3 "level"

those planes are started with 2 keys


and even the "true" modules have auto-start and auto-shutdown if you want ( you can try that in the free tf-51 )
Last edited by Vilab; Feb 20, 2019 @ 12:24pm
SlipNSlyde Feb 20, 2019 @ 12:25pm 
Originally posted by Vilab:
the FC3 planes don't require extensive procedure

the free su-25t is fc-3 "level"

those planes are started with 2 keys

Interesting. So the hard core aspect is not down to the game itself but how hard core the plane is made? The su-25t sounds pretty good.

Is there a campaign? Or is it more multi player pvp oriented?
NineLine  [developer] Feb 20, 2019 @ 12:27pm 
4 years is not an official timeline, all that has been said right now that the F4 has been pushed behind the F-16C.
Vilab Feb 20, 2019 @ 12:55pm 
dynamic campaign are stated to be in devloppement

there are regular "mission 1 completed => mission 2 available" free campaign for most modules, the su-25t have several of them, and some modules have additionnal DLC campaigns

you have instant missions, full single missions, training missions ( even if a few are only cinematics, not the su25t ones ), a very extensive mission editor, with quick mission planner option...
a lot of mission / campaign are available for download on the web
( you can actually find, open, and save all the campaign mission into single mission with the ME, in case you don't like campaign, or if you can't complete one of the missions for some reasons... )


there are PvP ( "conquest campaign", "realistic single mission", quick dogfights...), PvE ( training, mission against AI... ), aerobatic server... WW2, early Cold war, mid cold war, late, early 2000s era servers...


SlipNSlyde Feb 20, 2019 @ 1:13pm 
Originally posted by NineLine:
4 years is not an official timeline, all that has been said right now that the F4 has been pushed behind the F-16C.

OK thanks.
By the way, isn't there already an F16 variant in game?

Funny how Vietnam was just skipped in DCS. Was there a particular reason for that?

I'd love to see F4 Phantoms, A4s, A7 Corsairs, A6 Intruders.
And of course the Mig 15s, 17s, 21s.

My favorite game as a kid was USNF 97 and I haven't seen anything like it since.
Too bad, miss that great old game!
SlipNSlyde Feb 20, 2019 @ 1:15pm 
Originally posted by Vilab:
dynamic campaign are stated to be in devloppement

there are regular "mission 1 completed => mission 2 available" free campaign for most modules, the su-25t have several of them, and some modules have additionnal DLC campaigns

you have instant missions, full single missions, training missions ( even if a few are only cinematics, not the su25t ones ), a very extensive mission editor, with quick mission planner option...
a lot of mission / campaign are available for download on the web
( you can actually find, open, and save all the campaign mission into single mission with the ME, in case you don't like campaign, or if you can't complete one of the missions for some reasons... )


there are PvP ( "conquest campaign", "realistic single mission", quick dogfights...), PvE ( training, mission against AI... ), aerobatic server... WW2, early Cold war, mid cold war, late, early 2000s era servers...

OK thanks for the information.
I think I'll try the su-25t and see how it goes.
geistXIII Feb 20, 2019 @ 1:49pm 
Originally posted by SlipNSlyde:

By the way, isn't there already an F16 variant in game?

There's no flyable F-16 right now, only AI can use them.


Funny how Vietnam was just skipped in DCS. Was there a particular reason for that?
I wouldn't say, Vietnam was skipped. It's not like DCS sticks to a timeline or something like this. We have WW2 birds (like the Spit, Kurfürst and so on), some Korea related stuff like the Mig-15 or the Saber, there's also Nam related crafts, like the Mig-21 or the Huey and so on. It's not like DCS depicts a certain time or area.
SlipNSlyde Feb 20, 2019 @ 3:33pm 
Originally posted by geist〤ɪɪɪ:
Originally posted by SlipNSlyde:

By the way, isn't there already an F16 variant in game?

There's no flyable F-16 right now, only AI can use them.


Funny how Vietnam was just skipped in DCS. Was there a particular reason for that?
I wouldn't say, Vietnam was skipped. It's not like DCS sticks to a timeline or something like this. We have WW2 birds (like the Spit, Kurfürst and so on), some Korea related stuff like the Mig-15 or the Saber, there's also Nam related crafts, like the Mig-21 or the Huey and so on. It's not like DCS depicts a certain time or area.

Well if you have a Mig 15 and a Mig 21, all you need is a F4 Phantom and you have working Vietnam era campaigns :)

DanielMP5 Feb 20, 2019 @ 11:54pm 
Originally posted by NineLine:
4 years is not an official timeline, all that has been said right now that the F4 has been pushed behind the F-16C.
with it was the other way around :)
Zero Feb 21, 2019 @ 2:50am 
Originally posted by Subsonic:
Originally posted by NineLine:
4 years is not an official timeline, all that has been said right now that the F4 has been pushed behind the F-16C.
with it was the other way around :)

nah F-16 shares alot of systems with the F/A-18. they were even in the same competition for the Air force/Navy
george47mathew Feb 21, 2019 @ 6:35am 
We dont really have Vietnam era planes except maybe the upcoming Mig 19.

The F-4 we are going to get is post Vietnam era upgraded F-4E. I am hoping for naval version of F4 where we'd get a fun carrier jet with no HUD symbology to help...

Just...maybe if they'd go for a combo like the Heatblur F-14 being released in 2 versions.

It'd take at least 2 years estimate for the F-4 project to even start.

Last edited by george47mathew; Feb 21, 2019 @ 6:35am
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