F15 night vision ?

[tozziFan]

Hello,

while I am in the process of flying all the F15 campaigns (with DLCs), I am encountering several night missions, where is somewhat difficult to manage (either in dogfights or low level flying)

as I remember that Janes' F15 had NVG, and as I've discovered a very old NVG mod for DCS F15 (so it can be done),

I ask please whether there is any updated NVG mod somewhere,

thanks

[SSerponi76]

F-15C does not have FLIR capability (the F-15E of Jane's F-15 does but that's why 'E' is a ground-attack specialized) so either the pilot uses an helmet with NVG or fly into the dark.

I flew the same F-15 campaigns and got not to much troubles in night time: moonlight helps a lot, especially for ground obstacles.

If you have troubles with dogfights and cannot find and updated mod you can:

1) Try shoot down as much enemy as possible in BVR mode (oh yeah! thank you Captain Obvious!)
2) Turn on the object labels: this ♥♥♥♥'s up the realism but you can still pretend to have a JHMCS helmet ;-P
3) Try play at night reducing the external light sources: this will improve the visibility of things on the screen.

[tozziFan]

I've just been shot down in the Georgian campaign, in a night BVR engagement where the wingman did nothing against outnumbering bogeys, and the AWACS commanded the weapons hot engagement quite late

so, it's workaround time :)

[SSerponi76]

Originally posted by tozziFan:

...where the wingman did nothing against outnumbering bogeys ...

Maybe another obviousity: did you order them to engage?
AFAICS wingman tends to wait for orders, so do not expect form them to automatically engage bogeys.

[tozziFan]

yes I did (thanks anyway)

redoing the mission, this time I acted being at the ready (every target marked in TWS), without waiting the "weapons hot" call from the AWACs or the fired upon condition

that gave my flight the 5-10" needed to have the full advantage

[Insônia]

Unless you have high res IR sensor cool by coolant. And helmet buildin AR project Like 5th gen crazy technology.
those light personnel green goggles. Did not help much , maybe OK for air strike but too weak and very impractical for A2A combat.

The goggles even can not stay in place under high-gs. It cause more trouble than it should help.

That's why they don't deploy those or have <5 g-limits in nvg night flight

[tozziFan]

Originally posted by Insônia:

Unless you have high res IR sensor cool by coolant. And helmet buildin AR project Like 5th gen crazy technology.
those light personnel green goggles. Did not help much , maybe OK for air strike but too weak and very impractical for A2A combat.

The goggles even can not stay in place under high-gs. It cause more trouble than it should help.

That's why they don't deploy those or have <5 g-limits in nvg night flight

but how do the real ones manage their night patrols ?
how do they mantain formation?
how do they find themselves when in close range ?

[SSerponi76]

Originally posted by tozziFan:

but how do the real ones manage their night patrols ?
how do they mantain formation?
how do they find themselves when in close range ?

I guess they wear a pair of NVG (and remove them in case of dogfight).
Loose distance and Position/anti-collision lights helps during formation flight.