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And a using a mouse does not have a "cheap" feel to it?
it feels cheap compared to the feel of an actual aircraft, so I mightaswell just use a mouse
To be honest, there is not a lot anyone can really tell you. DCS was DESIGNED around the use of a joystick AT LEAST or a decent HOTAS setup as the ideal. There are a few solid HOTAS and even single joystick options that are generally fine but if you personally find that they feel "cheap", there is not much anyone can say to change that.
As far as using the mouse as a stick, I have not heard of any way to make that work on a practical level. I suppose there could be a way if you were to get really deep into config files and LUA scripts but even then, I have not heard of anyone doing that with any success.
If you can't bring yourself to use even one of the higher quality sticks (like a X56, Thrustmaster Warthog, Virpil HOTAS, or something at a similar price point), I am not sure if this is really going to work out for you. As of now, there is no way to bind the mouse to a axis and I don't honestly see that changing any time soon. The market they are SPECIFICALLY serving is willing and ready to purchase joysticks/HOTAS's and it is generally working for them.
I guess I'll just have to dig into some 3rd party virtual joystick/mouse emulation stuff.
To be bluntly honest, using a mouse to fly in DCS is not going to really work. You need the mouse to manipulate controls and if you don't have some form of head-tracking (or VR if you are one of the early adopters), you also may find the mouse useful for controlling the view. If we were talking about something like Rise of Flight or IL-2, I would say go for it because those sims have some leeway in that regard. Even then, it still would not be all that great.
For some further blunt honesty. If you want to play DCS, you are probably going to have to get a decent HOTAS like a Warthog, Virpil HOTAS, or even a X56 and just learn to get used to it. They are all good setups that OBJECTIVELY work really well with stuff like DCS. In your case, it may be a matter of just getting over it and learning to work with what is actually out there because what is out there is generally fine and generally works well.
The base is compatibile with the warthog grip but I much more like the T-50 grip for some reasons. It is made of high quality plastic (the manufacturer say), which is used for real sticks used in real aircrafts. Yes, there is no more used metal. It is great specially for helicopters. Stick is lighter so it is easier to use it, because there is much less inertia.
The springs and cams are changable and the main thing, the mechanism is made of metal and every moving part is jointed by ball bearings. Centering springs are separated for each axis. Not like in Warthog and other sticks where is just one spring for both axes. This feature makes very different feeling and much more precise controling of any aircraft.
You can change cams as you need. There are 3 kinds of them. With no center detent, with light center detend and with strong center detent. At Warthog is very strong center detent which is not good for helicopters. With warthog is just unable to make supersmall movement. Only if you have extended its lenght.
Virpil also has changable springs and adjustable spring bias. There are 3 sets of springs in package. The strongest one are such strong that you really need extension or you will not be able to fully move the stick to the end position. Only if you daily lift 50kg dumbbells with one hand. But as I wrote there are also really weak springs in a set which allows you use this stick just like sidestick.
I have the stick and throttle on mounting consoles in the height of armrests on my chair which makes controlling very comfortable and very precise.
https://picload.org/image/dgilwwiw/img_3754.jpg
This awaits everyone who will play with Warthog for more than 2 years.
https://youtu.be/OQOOoPdmRl8
That depends on what you are looking for in a HOTAS. I would say that it is probably the most popular but it suffers greatly from a lack of versatility. It is a good example of why I really wish companies like Thrustmaster would move away from modeling their HOTAS setups on the setups in real aircraft and instead take a lesson from Saitek and create HOTAS setups that include a wide variety of controls.
To kind explain what I mean. Some time ago, I had the opportunity to get a high-end HOTAS and could have gotten a Warthog. I even played around with the idea of getting one but in the end, I realized that in order to have the best experience across a wide variety of DCS and non-DCS aircraft, I needed something with two or more rotary controls. Likewise, I needed something that could do well with space sims so having some features in that regard would have been a bonus. The Warthog had none of what I needed. It is a great idea if you ONLY want a Warthog setup but heaven help you if you want convenient rotary controls for zoom, radiators, mixture, or anything else.
When it comes time to replace the X56 (which will probably be sooner than I would like), I will be skipping the Warthog again in favor of the Virpil setup because as things stand, they offer the best bang for the buck in terms of both build quality and versatility.