Can you modify the planes?

[Big Poppa Shmee]

So, used to play Wings over Israel WAY back in the day and it had a huge modding scene from the wings over/strike fighter games. Eventually I got so good at it I could do almost anything except actual physics based changes. I could change parameters of weapons, add guns to planes for example adding a tank cannon that fires 10000 rounds per minute if I wanted.

All I want to be able to do is mod weapon paremeters, like for example how many G's the rocket boosters for the missiles make, modify its target tracking, how long the rocket fuel/boost lasts etc. Also the plane, modifying how good the radar is, modifying how much thrust the engines make and how much fuel they use and how hot the engines get etc.

Is this type of modding possible in this game? I have no interest in the most real simulation of an aircraft ever, I want to play the way I enjoy. If this isn't your cup of tea and you feel triggered and need to complain I'm wasting the potential of the game or the devs time they spent, or you genuinely don't know but feel the need to comment, don't.

I want only real answers. Thank you!

[JDarksword]

It's not easy to do this, and it may break the game. I'd be careful. You also won't be able to play online with such modifications.

[Big Poppa Shmee]

Yeah I have no intention of every playing multiplayer. I've put over 500 hours into Assetto Corsa and I mod that like crazy. Not gone online once. Just wanna enjoy a mach 5 Su 27 shooting missiles that can accurately hit at 100 miles using my super powerful radar :D

[Big Poppa Shmee]

Originally posted by coxy:

aim-54 then.

No, I'm talking something that hits that 100 mile away target in about 15-20 seconds :D Hence why I'd need to mod the weapon file parameters.

[Freak]

The aircraft in DCS are the same specs as the aircraft and weapon systems etc are in real life for that particular aircraft so the answer to your question is no they can't.

Also, you may be good at other flight sims but....... The best quote that I have seen in these forums is 'If you can play this game/sim' you should be flying real aircraft'

[Big Poppa Shmee]

Originally posted by TotalFreakUK:

The aircraft in DCS are the same specs as the aircraft and weapon systems etc are in real life for that particular aircraft so the answer to your question is no they can't.

Also, you may be good at other flight sims but....... The best quote that I have seen in these forums is 'If you can play this game/sim' you should be flying real aircraft'

Its not that hard man. The only difficult part is memorizing controls. Also, every one of these aircraft has a file somewhere that contains the data in files telling the game how the aircraft should act etc. Those files can be modified.

[Freak]

Originally posted by SecretlyaFish:

Originally posted by TotalFreakUK:

The aircraft in DCS are the same specs as the aircraft and weapon systems etc are in real life for that particular aircraft so the answer to your question is no they can't.

Also, you may be good at other flight sims but....... The best quote that I have seen in these forums is 'If you can play this game/sim' you should be flying real aircraft'

Its not that hard man. The only difficult part is memorizing controls. Also, every one of these aircraft has a file somewhere that contains the data in files telling the game how the aircraft should act etc. Those files can be modified.

Well, if it is that easy why bother asking us?

[Freak]

Still....Too make this thread worth while.......My Warthog hotas arrived today....Woot woot

[Freak]

Just opening it mate .......Fecking heavy

[Freak]

It's fecking awesome coxy, worlds apart from my old G940. Don't worry mate, one day you will get old and finish work at 06:00 on Cyber Monday and instead of getting some sleep before getting on the net, you too will decide to have a few beers first and think it a good idea to drop 400 quid

[Freak]

Originally posted by coxy:

LOL ill see what santa brings

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you mate

[Big Poppa Shmee]

Originally posted by TotalFreakUK:

Originally posted by SecretlyaFish:

Its not that hard man. The only difficult part is memorizing controls. Also, every one of these aircraft has a file somewhere that contains the data in files telling the game how the aircraft should act etc. Those files can be modified.

Well, if it is that easy why bother asking us?

I'm saying that flying the planes is not that difficult. You were trying to hype this game like these planes are so difficult to fly and they aren't. The difficulty is mostly just navigating the exhaustive amount of controls for the aircraft. Actually flying the plane proper and shooting weapons is fairly easy even in the most hardcore sim flight mode.

Obviously, modding the game isn't so easy. Not sure if I need a specific unpacker or program to get into the files or even where all of them are, nor do I know how mod friendly the game is, if everything is laid out quite nicely or if its a giant cluster of garbage to navigate through the .ini files whereever they might be.

Looking back the stuff for Wings over Israel was actually quite complex and if it wasn't for some very kind, very patient people over on the combatace forums, who were open minded and didn't care about how I enjoyed the game, just wanted me to have the best time of it, I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. Like I said at the beginning, which you can read in my original post, I said if you don't have any direct knowledge that can help me, not to post here.

Who should be facepalming who I wonder?

[JDarksword]

Let me ask, do you only own the flaming cliffs modules? If so you don't know difficult to fly modules yet.

[Sandy]

Originally posted by SecretlyaFish:

Actually flying the plane proper and shooting weapons is fairly easy even in the most hardcore sim flight mode.

There is only one sim mode, and I've probably spent a couple hundred hours flying the A-10C in singleplayer and online and still don't know how to use a good deal of the plane's settings and modes.

[Freak]

Originally posted by SecretlyaFish:

Originally posted by TotalFreakUK:

Well, if it is that easy why bother asking us?

I'm saying that flying the planes is not that difficult. You were trying to hype this game like these planes are so difficult to fly and they aren't. The difficulty is mostly just navigating the exhaustive amount of controls for the aircraft. Actually flying the plane proper and shooting weapons is fairly easy even in the most hardcore sim flight mode.

Obviously, modding the game isn't so easy. Not sure if I need a specific unpacker or program to get into the files or even where all of them are, nor do I know how mod friendly the game is, if everything is laid out quite nicely or if its a giant cluster of garbage to navigate through the .ini files whereever they might be.

Looking back the stuff for Wings over Israel was actually quite complex and if it wasn't for some very kind, very patient people over on the combatace forums, who were open minded and didn't care about how I enjoyed the game, just wanted me to have the best time of it, I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. Like I said at the beginning, which you can read in my original post, I said if you don't have any direct knowledge that can help me, not to post here.

Who should be facepalming who I wonder?

As an active and hopefully sometimes useful member of this community I have the right to post in this thread.

I remember flying the M2000 in Wings Over Isreal and it is worlds apart from flying the M2000 in DCS!

[Faestre]

Thread necro to provide an answer, since OP still seemed to have questions.

Definitely don't expect a lot of support for making super-planes. The ratio of pretentiousness to realism in the DCS community is just a bit lower than Combat Mission or BoS, worlds beyond what you might be used to from Arma or FSX. Even obvious realism fixes like fan made AIM-120 updates and HARM implementation tend to get shot down by the local forumites. Nevermind anything remotely speculative.

Unfortunately this means that no simple resources exist for what you are trying to do. Most of the vanilla aircraft are tuned to fit proportionately with the others in the dev team's preferred approximation of real life. DRM policy means that certain files are also inaccessible to the user. What this means is that you can modify the stats on certain NPC planes, but as far as player-flyables are concerned you will have a much easier time making your own flight model than modifying an existing one. Luckily the API is mostly public, and there are even one or two people in the community on the main forum who might help.

https://forums.eagle.ru/showthread.php?t=116901

I would suggest starting here. This manual goes over how to make a basic plane, and will give you some good CAD practice as well. I don't have anything remotely ready to release as a modern template yet, and the wonderluft seems to be defunct, but feel free to contact me if you want to dig through this together and put up something.